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On Mon, 15 May 2006 08:55:02 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > - We'll continue to produce separate cd, mini.iso and hd-media
> > images; creating netboot images seems less o
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:22:22AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:01, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > Fool^WFull switch to g-i will kill serial line and ssh installs.
>
> Not so. The installer detects serial line installs and does not enable the
> framebuffer and thus not the graph
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:01, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Fool^WFull switch to g-i will kill serial line and ssh installs.
Not so. The installer detects serial line installs and does not enable the
framebuffer and thus not the graphical frontend. Similar for ssh
installs.
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On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:33:09AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:05:08AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > > Keep the current d-i images as they exist
> > > and add extra images for g-i.
> >
> > That would lead to an explosi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:17:42AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 15 May 2006 14:33, Sven Luther wrote:
> > (and we can't probably change it without another 6+ month flamewar with
> > Ethan Benson),
>
> This comment was unnecessary. Please keep old gripes out of mailing list
> discussions.
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:24:55AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 May 2006 00:11, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> > So, will you disable them, or should I try to test your images, too ?
> > (it seems to me that there shouldn't be differences, but you'll never
> > know :)
>
> They should preferably
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:12:04AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 15 May 2006 15:32, Davide Viti wrote:
> > I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine
>
> Hmm. I'm guessing that you've tried the mini.iso, and not one of the
> larger images as they indeed were completely broken. Will hopeful
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:11:12AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> So, will you disable them, or should I try to test your images, too ?
> (it seems to me that there shouldn't be differences, but you'll never
> know :)
There shouldn't be a difference, but if you have time, it doesn't cost
anything t
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:09:36AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Sunday 14 May 2006 12:18, Sven Luther wrote:
> > It is usefull to keep those images relatively small, but given their
> > current size, growing from 250 to 300 MB or whatever it is, will
> > probably pass un-noticed.
>
> Right. That i
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For all those reasons, i would build the netboot g-i images, it costs
> not much to build them, and since they are not going to be included on
> the isos ...
I will leave the decision on whether or not to include netboot images to
Colin. Technic
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:05:08AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > Keep the current d-i images as they exist
> > and add extra images for g-i.
>
> That would lead to an explosion of the number of images though which is
> not what we or the debian-c
On Monday 15 May 2006 14:33, Sven Luther wrote:
> (and we can't probably change it without another 6+ month flamewar with
> Ethan Benson),
This comment was unnecessary. Please keep old gripes out of mailing list
discussions. Especially as everybody is already aware of them.
> For all those reas
On Monday 15 May 2006 15:32, Davide Viti wrote:
> I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine
Hmm. I'm guessing that you've tried the mini.iso, and not one of the
larger images as they indeed were completely broken. Will hopefully be
fixed with the next build.
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On Sunday 14 May 2006 12:18, Sven Luther wrote:
> It is usefull to keep those images relatively small, but given their
> current size, growing from 250 to 300 MB or whatever it is, will
> probably pass un-noticed.
Right. That issue does not really apply to ppc as, as you say, the
businesscard and
On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Keep the current d-i images as they exist
> and add extra images for g-i.
That would lead to an explosion of the number of images though which is
not what we or the debian-cd team wants.
> The full CD will most likely match the netinst-gui.iso
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 00:11, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> So, will you disable them, or should I try to test your images, too ?
> (it seems to me that there shouldn't be differences, but you'll never
> know :)
They should preferably be disabled.
Having images from one source is enough and we'll anyway
On 5/16/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:28:21PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 5/15/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> >> Hi Sven,
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200,
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:28:21PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> On 5/15/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> >> Hi Sven,
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> >> > I am not sure if g-i is boo
On 5/15/06, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I am not sure if g-i is booting on powerpc right now though, last we tried
in
> > january, it crashed.
>
> Ah, nice ...
>
> This probably means we will never know what caused the problem though.
we're talking about a 3 years old snapshot; the libraries have evolved alot
in the meanwhile.
We have a similar problem with fonts (Dejavu can't be used as default font) and
I think there's no point trying t
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:21:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>On Monday 15 May 2006 09:28, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Running tools/boot/etch/boot-i386 1
>> /org/cdimage.debian.org/setup/debian-cd/../tmp/3i386/etch-i386/CD1
>> Using ISOLINUX boot-disks image on CD1
>> /org/cdimage.debian.org/setup/debi
Hi Frans,
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:21:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> I think that should already be fixed by Joey. Any chance of a rerun for
> i386?
I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine
regards,
Davide
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On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:05PM +0200, Davide Viti wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I am not sure if g-i is booting on powerpc right now though, last we tried
> > in
> > january, it crashed.
>
> Eddy tried an image dated May 11 and it did
On Monday 15 May 2006 09:28, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Running tools/boot/etch/boot-i386 1
> /org/cdimage.debian.org/setup/debian-cd/../tmp/3i386/etch-i386/CD1
> Using ISOLINUX boot-disks image on CD1
> /org/cdimage.debian.org/setup/debian-cd/tools/boot/etch/boot-i386: line
> 218: syntax error: unexp
Hi Sven,
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:33:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> I am not sure if g-i is booting on powerpc right now though, last we tried in
> january, it crashed.
Eddy tried an image dated May 11 and it did boot succesfully; colours are still
messed up (not a surprise), but hopefully it
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:55:02AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > - We'll continue to produce separate cd, mini.iso and hd-media images;
> > creating netboot images seems less obvious because of the size of
> > the initrd.
>
> A netb
Stefano Canepa wrote:
Hyphen is a problem on Italian keyboard, too. So using only letters
could be better for us.
It's a problem on nearly all European keyboards. Only '!$,.', 0-9,
a-zA-Z are in the same position. And there are also letters with
different positions, e.g. 'zy' on German keybo
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> - We'll continue to produce separate cd, mini.iso and hd-media images;
> creating netboot images seems less obvious because of the size of
> the initrd.
A netboot mini.iso would be useful, but for powerpc there's probably not
a lot o
Il giorno dom, 14/05/2006 alle 12.43 -0500, Christian Perrier ha
scritto:
> > > I'm not really completely fond of these names, mostly because I find
> > > them hard to type on non US keyboards.
> > >
> > > I would vote for "gui" and "gui-expert"...or "expert-gui"
> >
> > Is the hyphen the problem
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 08:36:50AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
>On Saturday 13 May 2006 23:23, Frans Pop wrote:
>> Yesterday Joey and I discussed the integration of the graphical
>> installer into the regular build system, and the result is below for
>> wider discussion and comments.
>
>Yesterday Joey
On Saturday 13 May 2006 23:23, Frans Pop wrote:
> Yesterday Joey and I discussed the integration of the graphical
> installer into the regular build system, and the result is below for
> wider discussion and comments.
Yesterday Joey and I managed to do the integration for i386.
This means that we
On 5/14/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not really completely fond of these names, mostly because I find
> > them hard to type on non US keyboards.
> >
> > I would vote for "gui" and "gui-expert"...or "expert-gui"
>
> Is the hyphen the problem? I've left that out currentl
On 5/14/06, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sunday 14 May 2006 17:46, Joey Hess wrote:
> Geert Stappers wrote:
> > New knowlegde learnt me not to laugh at "experts" doing an
> > installation with the boot option 'expert'. I think it is time to
> > educate the "experts" and tell them and _
> > I'm not really completely fond of these names, mostly because I find
> > them hard to type on non US keyboards.
> >
> > I would vote for "gui" and "gui-expert"...or "expert-gui"
>
> Is the hyphen the problem? I've left that out currently.
At least the hyphen can be a problem. It's actually p
Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > - As there will be separate initrds for CD images, we'll also need
> > separate boot options. We're thinking of "install-gui" and "expert-gui".
> > Other suggestions welcome.
>
>
> I'm not really completely fond of these
On Sunday 14 May 2006 17:46, Joey Hess wrote:
> Geert Stappers wrote:
> > New knowlegde learnt me not to laugh at "experts" doing an
> > installation with the boot option 'expert'. I think it is time to
> > educate the "experts" and tell them and _everyone_ that 'expert' is
> > 'detail'[1]
>
> Hmm,
Quoting Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> - As there will be separate initrds for CD images, we'll also need
> separate boot options. We're thinking of "install-gui" and "expert-gui".
> Other suggestions welcome.
I'm not really completely fond of these names, mostly because I find
them hard t
Geert Stappers wrote:
> New knowlegde learnt me not to laugh at "experts" doing an installation
> with the boot option 'expert'. I think it is time to educate the
> "experts" and tell them and _everyone_ that 'expert' is 'detail'[1]
Hmm, I think that caling it "detail" is the best description I've
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Yesterday Joey and I discussed the integration of the graphical installer
> into the regular build system, and the result is below for wider
> discussion and comments.
>
> The below should be valid for both i386, but may need adjustmen
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Yesterday Joey and I discussed the integration of the graphical installer
> into the regular build system, and the result is below for wider
> discussion and comments.
> - As there will be separate initrds for CD images, we'll also ne
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 11:23:52PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> - Using the font tarballs is OK for the short run, but now that we
> are integrating g-i we really need to switch to using udebs.
> This should be finished before the Etch RC1 release.
I'll try to come up with more detail asap.
Basic
Yesterday Joey and I discussed the integration of the graphical installer
into the regular build system, and the result is below for wider
discussion and comments.
The below should be valid for both i386, but may need adjustment for
powerpc. Comments from Colin on that are very welcome.
- Usin
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