Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 01:54:53AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Let me see if I've got this right... [ Massive snip ] Yes, that looks accurate to me. I don't think that alternative (a) is going to happen. There just isn't the critical mass to get such a project off the ground. You'll note

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Sebastiaan Molenaar
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote: snip /snip ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware. snip /snip Personally, I think alternative (b) is not viable either -- it's just too much pain for

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote: snip /snip ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware. snip /snip Personally, I think

free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-29 Thread Rick_Thomas
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 12:33, Brad Boyer wrote: Would we be able to use the patch drivers if someone convinced Apple to give us permission to redistribute them? This is old, obsolete stuff, after all. If we could even put them in a special, non-free package, it could be usable. I'll see what

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-29 Thread Brad Boyer
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:45:10PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Booting from floppy every time is a pain -- especially since floppies tend to go bad (wear out, actually) over time. But it's a possible option in the rare case when you haven't got access to any MacOS{89} install CD. But that's

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Brad Boyer wrote: To support starting from just a Debian CD on all oldworld boxes as well as install a bootable system, we need to do the following: 1) Write disk drivers for SCSI and IDE (both HD and CD-ROM) 2) License the patches from Apple (or somehow