On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 01:54:53AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
Let me see if I've got this right...
[ Massive snip ]
Yes, that looks accurate to me.
I don't think that alternative (a) is going to happen. There just
isn't the critical mass to get such a project off the ground.
You'll note
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote:
snip /snip
ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the
vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware.
snip /snip
Personally, I think alternative (b) is not viable either -- it's
just too much pain for
On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote:
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote:
snip /snip
ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the
vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware.
snip /snip
Personally, I think
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:29:47AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
Bottom line question... Does the Apple licensing requirement for
the drivers and patches mean that (as a practical matter) we'll
never be able to write a free miboot that can boot off
partitioned media?
Well, I wouldn't say
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 12:33, Brad Boyer wrote:
Would we be able to use the patch drivers if someone convinced
Apple to give us permission to redistribute them? This is old,
obsolete stuff, after all. If we could even put them in a special,
non-free package, it could be usable.
I'll see what
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:45:10PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote:
Booting from floppy every time is a pain -- especially since floppies
tend to go bad (wear out, actually) over time. But it's a possible
option in the rare case when you haven't got access to any MacOS{89}
install CD.
But that's
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Brad Boyer wrote:
To support starting from just a Debian CD on all oldworld boxes as well
as install a bootable system, we need to do the following:
1) Write disk drivers for SCSI and IDE (both HD and CD-ROM)
2) License the patches from Apple (or somehow
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
I may be mistaken, but I believe that, when booting from a hard
disk (not a floppy), miboot depends on having it's early stages
loaded by the Apple OldWorld Boot ROM code, which needs the
afore-mentioned patches to do its job.
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Brad Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
I may be mistaken, but I believe that snip...
Well, it's not really that simple. I'll try to explain as I go
along in the message. snip...
Thanks Brad! the extra detail
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 01:48 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice that if we manage to free miboot, a miboot kernel on a special
partition may be one solution for 2.6.8 kernels with initrd.
The situation may be worse than we thought. Take a look at Apple
Tech Note 1189 which is available at
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