Re: the next step

2000-10-21 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
"Erik" == Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik On Fri Oct 20, 2000 at 05:02:48PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Ok, cool. Do you have a patch queue for us? Erik My mailbox. I can also give folks write access... Ok; I'll just email anything I get time for.

Re: the next step

2000-10-20 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
"Erik" == Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik At Lineo (where I work) we have a tool called "Lipo" (written in perl) that Erik does the library reduction thing, and we have it working quite nicely on a Erik number of platforms. Can we use it? Erik I don't think

Re: the next step

2000-10-20 Thread Erik Andersen
On Fri Oct 20, 2000 at 02:24:59PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: "Erik" == Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik At Lineo (where I work) we have a tool called "Lipo" (written in perl) that Erik does the library reduction thing, and we have it working quite nicely on a

Re: the next step

2000-10-20 Thread Erik Andersen
On Fri Oct 20, 2000 at 05:02:48PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Ok, cool. Do you have a patch queue for us? My mailbox. I can also give folks write access... Erik The syscall layer is in a state of flux at the moment -- starting late last Erik night I began converting from asm

Re: the next step

2000-10-01 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sun Oct 01, 2000 at 02:28:06PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To be honest, I've never been given a really good explanation as to why libc reduction works in our current setup, period. I spent a while trying to make it work on powerpc and gave

Re: the next step

2000-10-01 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:38:45PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: If you would like, I could write up a "General Theory of Library Reduction" readme, that explains how it works... If you do, please mail me a copy Marcin -- ++ The reason we come up with new

Re: the next step

2000-10-01 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:38:45PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: On Sun Oct 01, 2000 at 02:28:06PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To be honest, I've never been given a really good explanation as to why libc reduction works in our current setup,

Re: [woody] modules for debian-installer (Re: the next step)

2000-10-01 Thread Jeff Sheinberg
Adam Di Carlo writes: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] I think grub would be better since it's xplatform. I have heard ^ rumors that its not ready for prime time yet, though. [snip] GRUB is quite nice, however, it is not

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Erik Andersen
On Thu Sep 28, 2000 at 06:36:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I feel that the design discussions have reached the point where we'll be more productive if we're talking about actual code. There are still many decisions to be made, but most of them are on the level of how an individual module

Re: [woody] modules for debian-installer (Re: the next step)

2000-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Taketoshi Sano wrote: * base tarball installer Is "base tarball" required for woody debian-installer ? I think if we can use network to retrieve packages, then we can use the fresh archive itself, rather than old base part of the archive which was frozen into tar-ball. Yes, we can

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Glenn McGrath
Joey Hess wrote: * mini dpkg (mostly done) * base tarball creator (don't have to write, we can just use boot-floppies to make base tarballs for the first cut) * mini debconf (with 1 frontend and a basic database) * main menu generation code * http retriever * kernel build (with

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Sep 30, 2000 at 12:51:22AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Erik Andersen wrote: Where do we upload things to? Can we get an archive area? I've had busybox .debs ready for months now... And I've had bug #66604 open for months too. I need to track down some of the ftp maintainers and get

Re: [woody] modules for debian-installer (Re: the next step)

2000-09-30 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, we can certianly try to do this eventually. However, take a look at all the disgusting stuff basedisks.sh has to do in the boot-floppies to create a debian base system. A lot of packages need to be cleaned up before we can just dpkg -i `cat base-debs`

Re: [woody] modules for debian-installer (Re: the next step)

2000-09-30 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Sep 30, 2000 at 01:26:49PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: I think grub would be better since it's xplatform. I have heard rumors that its not ready for prime time yet, though. I've been using it with great results on my laptop, home box, and work box. I give it two thumbs up (though

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 09:54:53AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: It will fit. Oh, yes. It will. ;-) I'm sure it can be done. Though we may need to switch to libc5 or uclibc or something more exotic (like the thin syscall wrapper libc thing on the RedHat installer). Oooh, uclibc. That's

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Erik Andersen wrote: Maybe we can use it as the actual engine of the retreiver. The retreivers though have to all use a standard interface, and I think it makes sense to make a special module for the glue code. I see. So more then just a retriever, you want something like the current

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: Oooh, uclibc. That's a good idea. In fact, that's a VITAL idea. Joey, please remember that some architectures (I'm thinking powerpc here, and at least two more) do not support library reduction. libc on a floppy is not an option. I've never been given a good

Re: the next step

2000-09-30 Thread Erik Andersen
On Sat Sep 30, 2000 at 06:08:39PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: Oooh, uclibc. That's a good idea. In fact, that's a VITAL idea. Joey, please remember that some architectures (I'm thinking powerpc here, and at least two more) do not support library reduction.

Re: the next step

2000-09-29 Thread Hartmut Koptein
I feel that the design discussions have reached the point where we'll be more productive if we're talking about actual code. There are still many Please create a picture of the layout/concept/modules. An picture says more then 1000 Thanks, Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to