On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit :
> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to so
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >
> >>For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs
> >>(turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-e
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
>>
>>> For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs
>>> (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-e
> This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it
> will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any
> estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change
> gets made?
Fedora already made the change a full release cycles ago, and Fedora
packa
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* Kurt Roeckx [101114 14:08]:
> People have been claiming that constructors or init section are a
> possible problem. I have yet to see an example where it breaks.
The following example is a bit constructed, but shows a silent change
of run-time behaviour if --as-needed is passed:
$ cat > ertes
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:49:08AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
> > >> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or
> > >> unnecessary.
> > >> Check out http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml
> > >> --as-neede
Steve Langasek, le Tue 16 Nov 2010 09:14:40 -0800, a écrit :
> I don't argue that this makes --as-needed *correct* as a default, but I
> think it's clear how using --as-needed may benefit a distribution in terms
> of reducing churn when library dependencies change.
We agree on the second part, but
On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs
(turning on --as-ne
* Roland McGrath:
>> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary.
>
> It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the
> initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it.
So it's more like static linking. 8-)
IMHO, the current d
Florian Weimer, le Tue 16 Nov 2010 19:49:57 +0100, a écrit :
> * Roland McGrath:
>
> >> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or
> >> unnecessary.
> >
> > It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the
> > initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I cal
On Sunday 14 November 2010 23:35:39 Robert Millan wrote:
> 2010/11/14 Werner Koch :
> >> I don't have time to work on this myself. Unless someone else does,
> >> I'd still recommend adding the SUID bit as a temporary solution.
> >
> > Might be the easiest way until we have proper disk encryption s
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:04:53PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>>> On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> F
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