List for discussing init system diversity (e.g. sysvinit & elogind)

2018-10-16 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, I mentioned this on debian-devel already in the thread about Buster maybe losing sysvinit support, but I thought it was worth flagging to the HURD/BSD lists since it seems relevant to your interests :-) There's a couple of posts in the archive of where the elogind for buster work is: http://

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-16 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ian Jackson writes: > Also we are hampered by the lack of a safe space to communicate and > coordinate. I looked at some of the technical work done in other > distros to try to make desktoppy stuff continue to work well, and it > generally seems sane. But some of those projects are quite toxic

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Holger Levsen writes: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that >> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core? >> >> The latter. systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and h

Re: Booting

2002-03-12 Thread Matthew Vernon
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 06:30:27PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Honestly? I'd really love to see GRUB achieve it's nominal purpose - GRand > > Unified Bootloader. Making it capable of compiling on, and booting, *BSD > > machines seems like a majo

Re: dupload to archive

2002-03-12 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ls-lR.gz and md5sums.gz] > I'll look into arranging this. Any progress on this front? Cheers, Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." http://www.debian.org

Re: dupload to archive

2002-03-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
Jimmy Kaplowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 02:04:23PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > and SCP does not, AFAIK, allow for limiting an account to file-copies and > > disallowing shell access reliably (so I can't make an anonymous-upload > > account). > > Can't you just se

Re: dupload to archive

2002-03-03 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ls-lR.gz and md5sums.gz] > Probably - but debarchiver doesn't have hooks for calling other scripts when > it's done, either. I suppose I could try to hack something into the cronfile Oh, that's not very good. Probably worth a wishlist bug. > itself. Jus

Re: dupload to archive

2002-03-03 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 06:41:52PM +, Matthew Vernon wrote: > > Any chance of an indices directory (preferably containing md5sums.gz) > > and an ls-lR.gz, please? That way I can mirror this properly. > >

Re: dupload to archive

2002-03-02 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > fqdn => 'debian-bsd.lightbearer.com', Any chance of an indices directory (preferably containing md5sums.gz) and an ls-lR.gz, please? That way I can mirror this properly. Thanks, Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True.

Re: ed SEGV

2002-02-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's apparently being caused by stack corruption... lord knows how THAT > is happening. Time to dig out the toolkit. Or rather, try to compile the > toolkit... (GDB should be up, now, for the record). I suspect Crap Code(TM). Or someone relying on a beh

Re: ed SEGV

2002-02-05 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Joel Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > Currently, my copy of ed is throwing SEGV; gdb says this is caused by a Is this the ed package I built the other day? If not, what source did you use

Re: ed package

2002-02-04 Thread Matthew Vernon
matthew green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> > getopt is in libiberty. It's also in glibc, and people have a bad >> > habit of not checking for that in configure. I'm thinking about >> > packaging libiberty, an

Re: ed package

2002-02-04 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > getopt is in libiberty. It's also in glibc, and people have a bad > > habit of not checking for that in configure. I'm thinking about > > packaging libiberty, and > > Also a BSD-licensed getopt (a

Re: ed package

2002-02-03 Thread Matthew Vernon
"Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > getopt is in libiberty. It's also in glibc, and people have a bad > > habit of not checking for that in configure. I'm thinking about > > packaging libiberty, and > > Also a BSD-licensed getopt (a

ed package

2002-02-02 Thread Matthew Vernon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, ed package (binary) is at http://www.pick.ucam.org/~matthew/netbsd/ed_0.2-19_netbsd-i386.deb md5sum is 0d08768459c589722584903fc658fa0c The package is of course unsigned, but this mail is signed :) Matthew - -- "At least you know where you are with Mic

typescript

2002-01-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Ooops. here's the promised typescript Script started on Thu Jan 31 01:42:10 2002 bash-2.05# cd /debian bash-2.05# ls apt-get.core dev home lost+found sbin bin etc import mnt tmp boot floppy initrd proc usr cdrom

strange ln behaviour

2002-01-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi folks, I'm using an nfs-mount as my chroot, and am getting strange ln behaviour, which is causing builds to fail. In this case, it's ed I'm trying to build, and things are failing because the symlink of red.1.gz->ed.1.gz is producing rubbish - you'll see in the typescript that trying to read f

More info

2002-01-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, Further to my previous mail, if I make the red.1.gz->ed.1.gz link in the chroot's /import/ed-0.2/debian/tmp/usr/share/man/man1/ from linux or bsd, then the linux machine with the chroot nfs-mounted can recognise the link, but BSD doesn't (neither the chroot'd bsd, or the native netbsd box). A

problems using chroot

2002-01-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Hi, chroot /debian /bin/bash is SEGVing on me; attached is the output of ktrace -i chroot /debian /bin/bash; kdump. Matthew 318 ktrace EMUL "netbsd" 318 ktrace RET ktrace 0 318 ktrace CALL execve(0xbfbfd7bc,0xbfbfdc4c,0xbfbfdc5c) 318 ktrace NAMI "/sbin/chroot" 318 ktra