A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Joel Baker
I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for the port than "Debian GNU/NetBSD", both because it is more specific about what's going on, and because it doesn't dilute the NetBSD trademark. While

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Michael Ritzert
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.12.03 21:51:20: > > I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the > general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for > the port than "Debian GNU/NetBSD", both because it is more specific about If t

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-02 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:49:42PM +0100, Michael Ritzert wrote: > Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.12.03 21:51:20: > > > > I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the > > general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for > > the

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-03 Thread Joel Baker
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:41:00AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the > > general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for >

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Joel, On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the > general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for > the port than "Debian GNU/NetBSD", both because it is more specific about

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:50:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > I've been contacted by a member of the NetBSD team, who expressed that the > general opinion seems to be that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" is a better name for > the port than "Debian GNU/NetBSD", both because it is more specific about > what's

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only "nomenclature correctness" stuff. Let me explain. On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > uname -s: GNU/KFreeBSD > Uhm. I'd have to turn on my box to

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:24:51PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > There are very important technical reasons for these decisions, not only > "nomenclature correctness" stuff. Let me explain. > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:33:22AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > uname -s: GNU/KFree

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be > hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. > > [...] > The Debian architecture will remain 'netbsd-i386', with the known issue > that we'l

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:04:20AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > Indeed. As long as it's documented, people are probably going to be > > hand-selecting their APT entries, anyway, so it isn't such a big deal. > > > > [...] > > The Debi

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-05 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:46:05PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > Untill we resolve this, please take into consideration to avoid filing > > patches > > that use "netbsd-i386" in a way that breaks the other port. I've been > > careful > > to keep such incompatible patches without submitting, s

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:28:03PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:46:05PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > > > > > Untill we resolve this, please take into consideration to avoid filing > > > patches > > > that use "netbsd-i386" in a way that breaks the other port. I've been

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:21:09AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > Which works great, if it's libc-dev that's needed. It fails fairly > severely, if a specific version of a library is needed due to, say, a fix > in an included library that also requires a fix in the application. > > Not to mention p

Re: A request from the NetBSD folks [ please discuss ]

2003-12-10 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:22:36AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > So. I propose the following, and, barring objections over the next week > or so, I'll take steps to update what I can to reflect this: > > uname -s will remain 'NetBSD'. > > uname -v will continue to have distinguishing features (I