glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Atifa Kheel
Hello, I am trying to study the various functionalities supported by glibc Vs presence or absence of those features in BSD libc. This information here is w.r.t BSD libc which is supplied with FreeBSD4.6(on intel) i would like to know if i am missing something or some information is not accurate. An

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Atifa" == Atifa Kheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Atifa> e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) Atifa> glibc: Supported Atifa> BSD libc: Not Supported. wide oriented streams (wprintf, etc.) ? Atifa> 14. Atifa> Math Library Atifa> Support for Mathe

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 20), Atifa Kheel said: > e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) > glibc: Supported > BSD libc: Not Supported. BSD supports funopen() which allows the user to create handles for arbitrary stream types. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=funopen > S

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Neal H. Walfield
> In the last episode (Jan 20), Atifa Kheel said: > > e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) > > glibc: Supported > > BSD libc: Not Supported. > > BSD supports funopen() which allows the user to create handles for > arbitrary stream types. glibc has fopencookie which is similar.

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Neal H. Walfield
> 3. > Portability > glibc:Portable to more than one Kernel and hence large > BSD libc:Don’t attempt to be portable across kernels and hence > smaller. I do not see the logic. If you are speaking about lines of code in the distribution, I may agree, however, this does not speak to the size of the

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Neal H. Walfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030120 19:10]: > > 3. > > Portability > > glibc:Portable to more than one Kernel and hence large > > BSD libc:Don’t attempt to be portable across kernels and hence > > smaller. > > I do not see the logic. If you are speaking about lines of code in > the dis

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 10:31:31AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > > System database and name service switch(NSS) > > glibc: Supported > > BSD libc: NSS not supported.Incompatible shadow and password support and > > ancient utmp. > > (Problem Solved by writing a library libshadow) > > User applicati

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 05:05:38AM -0800, Atifa Kheel wrote: Some other comments: > glibc support for standards: > ANSI C(ISO C) > POSIX (Pthreads support) > SYSTEM V > (Eg: > Malloc tunable parameter(mallopt) > Extensions : > Statistics for storage allocation with malloc(mallinfo) > _tolower() a

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread David Brownlee
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > i understood him this way: glibcs *portability* is large, since > it is not only portabel over several archs but also over several > kernels. > > bsds libc is less portable (only accross different archs) so its > portability is smaller. At a

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-23 Thread Pavel Cahyna
Hello, some notes about NetBSD libc: it supports nsswitch for a long time, see here: http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?nsswitch.conf++NetBSD-current Dynamically loaded NSS modules are not supported. To David Brownlee: I doubt NetBSD 1.0 binary could run against a NetBSD 1.6 libc. They don't

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-23 Thread Jens Rehsack
19. Extended Characters glibc: Supported BSD libc: No multi-byte character set functions.Breaks building UTF(Unicode) support in libncurses. wide character support is present in 5.0. On my 4.7-STABLE machine I took a look now is a wchar.h in /usr/include/. Also audio/id3lib compiles fine with the

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 06:41:27PM +0100, Pavel Cahyna wrote: > And, if there are things like funopen(), why do Gnome hackers invent > their own APIs like gnome-vfs? Does somebody actually use funopen()? > Does it really work? They presumably did it because they thought it would be a good idea. P

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Ritzert
Pavel Cahyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 23.01.03 19:14:41: > > To David Brownlee: I doubt NetBSD 1.0 binary could run against > a NetBSD 1.6 libc. They don't care much about binary compatibility. You > could not even run a statically linked 1.0 app without some COMPAT_ > option in the kernel,

re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-24 Thread matthew green
To David Brownlee: I doubt NetBSD 1.0 binary could run against a NetBSD 1.6 libc. They don't care much about binary compatibility. You could not even run a statically linked 1.0 app without some COMPAT_ option in the kernel, I think. when making such assertions it helps to be act

re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-24 Thread matthew green
They presumably did it because they thought it would be a good idea. Perhaps they wanted to hide implementation differences between different OSes. Either way, the low-level functions in FreeBSD work just fine. FWIW, i just ran "man funopen" on my netbsd box and it says: HISTOR

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-24 Thread Pavel Cahyna
> > when making such assertions it helps to be actually correct. while it > is true that *any* old binary may require COMPAT_XX options in the kernel, > netbsd supports binaries back to 386bsd for i386, with shorter periods > of backwards compat for the newer plaforms. i have personally run 386b

re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-24 Thread matthew green
> when making such assertions it helps to be actually correct. while it > is true that *any* old binary may require COMPAT_XX options in the kernel, > netbsd supports binaries back to 386bsd for i386, with shorter periods > of backwards compat for the newer plaforms. i have personal

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-24 Thread Pavel Cahyna
Hello, > the compat packages exist to provide missing libraries. the netbsd > libc "soname" has never changed -- it was libc.so.12 when the first > ELF port arrived, and it is libc.so.12 today. of course you can not So the ABI for libc didn't change since the introduction of ELF and no compat l

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread Michael Ritzert
Momchil Velikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 20.01.03 15:20:56: > > > "Atifa" == Atifa Kheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Atifa> e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) > Atifa> glibc: Supported > Atifa> BSD libc: Not Supported. > Why is it important for d

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Michael" == Michael Ritzert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Why is it important for debian BSD to sum up the Michael> differences in BSD libc and glibc? Maybe to justify choosing one or another ? Michael> - the dominance of glibc-based linux has forced IBM and Michael

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:50:46AM +0100, Michael Ritzert wrote: > Momchil Velikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 20.01.03 15:20:56: > > > > > "Atifa" == Atifa Kheel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Atifa> e)Other Streams(like string streams,Obstack streams,etc) > > Atifa> glibc: S

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-21 Thread Nathan Hawkins
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:42:55AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > > So, coming back to the main topic: how did the NetBSD/intel people > > overcome these difficulties caused by bsd libc/glibc? > > Most of the difficulties are non-portable code (such as code that uses GNU > extensions *without* wrappin

Re: glibc vs BSD libc

2003-01-23 Thread Tony Finch
Pavel Cahyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does somebody actually use funopen()? Does it really work? Of course it works. It's used in the BSD version of compress(1) and in libfetch, libftpio, and libz. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dotat.at/ ARDNAMURCHAN POINT TO CAPE WRATH I