On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 05:15:02PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> whether it is OK to require systemd. Russ's text does not contain any
> kind of decision or statement that could be used as a part of a strong
> argument by systemd sceptics in the GNOME community, for example.
As explained before: If
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:31:41PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 14 février 2014 à 13:50 +, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> > Josselin Mouette writes ("Bug#727708: init system coupling etc."):
> > > In all cases, it is unacceptable to put the burden of implementing
> > > logind on non-s
oops.. that was supposed to be a private message, sorry for the noise.
Please remove this one and my previous one.
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On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Craig Bransworth
wrote:
> In the end there will be nothing but systemd.
> To make this possible steve lan needs to be moved out
> of the way for a clean victory for the new way(TM!).
I'm one of the vocal and outspoken systemd advocates. Your assertion
that "Ian n
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> UT upstart default in jessie, requiring specific init is allowed
So just to ensure I don't misunderstand:
The way I read the texts, you could have e.g. Upstart as default init
system and GNOME depend on systemd with UT? Meaning: software co
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Sergey B Kirpichev
wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 05:30:04PM +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
>> GNOME upstream won't really change
>
> Why? There are non-Linux GNOME users, for example. If the GNOME
> developers don't care even about such popular distribution as
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:54:11PM +0100, Andrew Shadura wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:17:29 +0100
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> > Gnome-shell uses GDM for screen locking, and GDM heavily relies on
> > logind nowadays. There is fallback code that uses ConsoleKit, but it
> > has been untested fo
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Matthias Klumpp dixit:
>
> >No, Josselin is right: GNOME *does not* work without services provided
> >by systemd. He never said that - given some amount of work - it can't
>
> Hum, we can always add “remove GNOME (3) from Debian”
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 07:34:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:24:12PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le mardi 28 janvier 2014 à 08:16 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt a écrit :
> > >&g
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 28 janvier 2014 à 08:16 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt a écrit :
>> No. My question isn't about logind, but about using a user systemd
>> session to supervise processes started by the session. IIRC both GNOME
>> and KDE were mentioned to
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