Dear Maintainers,
Recently I upgraded Ubuntu 22.04 to Debian 12 Bookworm.
I used out-of-tree driver 88XXau for my USB WiFi adapter,
so with DKMS build I hit the behavior described in this bug,
that is, upgraded DKMS created its own key pair in /var/lib/dkms
and ignored already-enrolled MOK
Dear Maintainer,
is there any chances to get this fix integrated into Bookworm Stable earlier
that Trixie turns into the new Stable ?
I upgraded a number of Ubuntu Jammy systems to Debian Bookworm, and this vmstat
behavior bothers me a lot.
Could I provide any free help from my side ?
Michael Biebl wrote:
Can you share more details about your network configuration, like your
/etc/network/interfaces
Judging from the log, bind9 is started once udevd was up. So I suspect
you use allow-hotplug and your network is configured by
/lib/udev/rules.d/80-ifupdown.rules and
1. I got Ark 4.13.3 sources from Ubuntu 14.04 and rebuilt
ark_4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb under Debian 8.2 (with Debian's compiler and
the rest of build-deps)
Then I installed it over Ark 4.14.2, and it worked well and shown me
Cyrillic filenames
(initially I just copied Ark
Package: ark
Version: 4:4.14.2-2
Severity: important
Dear Maintainer,
*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***
* What led up to the situation?
I downloaded a .zip file from email attachment which contained Russian-named
files inside
* What exactly
Hi,
I have run into exactly the same problem. Earlier we had Lenny system
with Xen Dom0 and Nvidia driver. It was used both as Xen host and as a
GUI desktop. Video adapter had broken, and was replaced with newer
Radeon card (HD4350). Which pushed us to
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
On my system, root's mail is redirected to my own account (mwg)
through /etc/aliases :
root: mwg
so, the testcase is to submit at/batch job under root, and then you
don't get its output when you use courier-mta as sendmail.
Can you please try to send mail
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Finally, I dared to strace atd and its subprocesses, and found the
difference between sendmail run for root and non-root user.
Being run from atd, sendmail process does not have open stdout and
stderr file descriptors. And courier's
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
tags 316442 + moreinfo
thanks
Hi,
I recently took over maintenance of at and am going over the open bug
reports. You reported quite some time ago, that at will not mail
command output for jobs queued by root when using ssmtp or courier-mta.
Is this still the case?
Package: ntp
Version: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-1
Followup-For: Bug #446891
Please rebuild again. Sorry for bothering you so much .
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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux
Package: libssl0.9.8
Version: 0.9.8e-9
Severity: minor
Hi,
On upgrade, it honestly reported that it had restarted bind9,
although no new bind9 process was in sight and I had to start
bind9 by hand. Don't know whose bug it is, openssl or bind9,
but I
Package: linux-image-2.6.21-1-686
Version: 2.6.21-4
Followup-For: Bug #426738
Here are my softlockups as seen in /var/log/dmesg on this system :
hda: cache flushes supported
hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
ide: failed opcode was: unknown
hdc: drive not ready for command
BUG:
Package: nscd
Version: 2.5-8
Severity: normal
Hi,
I have K7 CPU. Lots of other my hosts have i686.
Why upgrade to nscd 2.5-8 should bring libc6-amd64 with itself ?
Are there really any benefits from this, even on x86_64 CPUs ?
What is so
Package: initscripts
Version: 2.86.ds1-38
Severity: normal
Hi,
some packages create subdirectories in /var/run , then expect them to
remain after next reboot. bootclean script does not remove these
directories from real FS. But with RAMRUN, we get an empty directory
without any structure in it.
Package: module-init-tools
Version: 3.3-pre4-2
Severity: wishlist
Hi,
http://www.kerneltools.org/pub/downloads/module-init-tools/module-init-tools-3.3-pre11.tar.bz2
Would be great to get it integrated into unstable.
Thank you in advance.
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Package: module-init-tools
Followup-For: Bug #421115
The problem is that I am trying to mix Ubuntu 7.04 and Debian unstable.
In their module-init-tools, Ubuntu people invented -Q option for
modprobe, which they then use in their udev. Currently, Debian's
module-init-tools come atop of Ubuntu
Package: openntpd
Version: 3.9p1-4
Followup-For: Bug #306106
Hi,
Mar 15 06:55:12 localhost ntpd[22812]: adjusting local clock by 11.840888s
Mar 15 06:56:50 localhost ntpd[22812]: adjusting local clock by 11.878561s
Mar 15 06:58:25 localhost ntpd[22812]: adjusting local clock by 11.928825s
Mar
Package: scavr
Version: 1.8.2-1
Followup-For: Bug #396729
Unfortunately this had not fixed the whole problem. Under python 2.4.4,
it stilll does not detect line end when reading from unix-domain socket.
May be you should make scavr strictly dependent on python 2.3.x if
deeper investigation of
Hendrik-Jan Heins wrote:
I think I worked the kinks out.
I'm writing this from an iceape 1.1.1
This version of 1.1.1 should work without any issues.
You can find it at: http://hjh.passys.nl in the Debian/Sid/i386 folder
Could you tell me if it works for you as well?
Yes, now it
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:57:30AM +0100, Hendrik-Jan Heins wrote:
You can find a build of Iceape 1.1 based on what Mike already did on:
http:/hjh.passys.nl
Mind you, I haven't tested it yet!!!
I tried it and promptly reverted to 1.0.7.
Reasons :
1. history search
Package: iceape
Version: 1.0.7-2
Severity: wishlist
Dear maintainers,
Just reminding you about
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
Version 1.1 went from beta to stable on Jan 18th.
Hope to see it as Iceape in Debian soon.
Thank you in
Package: fail2ban
Version: 0.7.6-1
Severity: normal
Hi,
It seems that courierlogin filter is just turned off in default
fail2ban configuration. Recently I have been scanned by pop3
protocol, someone tried to guess logins/passwords for my
mailbox,
Hi,
Same symptoms with iceape 1.0.7-2
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 does not help
Being run with -debug option, iceape works more stable, in the
sense that it hangs later. Without debugger, it hangs quite
soon. Right when mail-news-related modal dialog is
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 08:04:09PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
Could you propose any guesses ?
Unfortunatelly, there's nothing informative enough to do any guess :(
Could you try to run iceape normally and attach gdb to its pid when it
hangs ?
I had done exactly that. Run
Package: iceape
Version: 1.0.6-1
Severity: wishlist
Hi,
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/releases/
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#seamonkey1.0.7
You see. Several fixes. 8 days ago. Everyone dreams of.
Thanks in advance :
--
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 08:46:26PM +0200, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
It'd be more helpful with a back trace ;)
ran iceape -debug, and caught this backtrace on hang.
Not very different from former one, and not very helpful.
(gdb) thread apply all bt
Thread 32 (Thread -1299764304
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 10:16:11PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
I have upgraded from Mozilla 1.7.13-0.3 to iceape 1.0.6.
I run iceape with the profile left from earlier mozilla.
And so, when I leave the running browser unattended for several
hours (for a night, say), and if
Mike Hommey wrote:
After several days, everything was impeccable, but today in the
morning my system restarted due to mains power loss. After reboot,
I started iceape again, but forgot to attach gdb to it. And so,
now, in the evening, I have found iceape hung
Package: iceape
Version: 1.0.6-1
Severity: important
Hi,
I have upgraded from Mozilla 1.7.13-0.3 to iceape 1.0.6.
I run iceape with the profile left from earlier mozilla.
And so, when I leave the running browser unattended for several
hours (for a night,
Package: scavr
Version: 1.7.0-2
Severity: important
Hi,
You see my software versions below.
In fact, I just add
url_rewrite_program /usr/lib/squid/scavr -c /etc/squid/scavr.conf
url_rewrite_children 1
url_rewrite_access deny localhost
into my squid.conf, then
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 08:51:39AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
#include hallo.h
* Wladimir Mutel [Thu, Oct 12 2006, 11:59:15PM]:
Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.28-1
Severity: normal
Don't know exactly if this is due to updated icewm, or updated libraries
used by icewm. I use theme
Package: icewm
Followup-For: Bug #392693
The bug has gone, I hope.
Look at dependencies now.
May be somebody has fixed something .
I see only libx11-6 build changed.
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Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.28-1
Severity: normal
Don't know exactly if this is due to updated icewm, or updated libraries
used by icewm. I use theme metal2. I don't have any explicit fonts
specified in system-wide or my own icewm preferences. I see normal
Cyrillic in IceWM start menu and in
Package: isdnutils
Version: 1:3.9.20060704-2
Severity: normal
Hi,
Having installed new version of the packegs, I found that
isdnutils and makedev scripts are listed with the same startup
priority (S20) on runlevel 2. Due to alphabetic ordering,
Package: ppp
Version: 2.4.4b1-1
Severity: normal
Hi,
Here are my pppd options :
pty pptp vpn.server.net --nolaunchpppd
name [EMAIL PROTECTED]
file /etc/ppp/options.pptp
ipparam vpnserver
debug kdebug 1
persist
holdoff 60
maxfail 0
updetach
mrru 1600
mru 1600
mp
mpshortseq
Package: apt-proxy
Version: 1.9.33-0.1
Followup-For: Bug #375677
On my system, completely official and unpatched apt-proxy is
broken too in very the same way. Don't know who is at fault,
application or library.
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Package: libsasl2
Version: 2.1.19.dfsg1-0.1
Followup-For: Bug #316404
Hi,
I understand that this bug is of wishlist level.
cyrus-sasl v2.1.21 added support for courier-authdaemon, which I
think is extremely useful bridge allowing to remove mysql part
out
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 10:22:23AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
tag 361587 moreinfo
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
the message was passed or rejected. It would be great to also
see in the log a list of SA tests triggered by the rejected
message
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 10:16:27AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
tag 361584 moreinfo
thanks
On Sun, 09 Apr 2006, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
Apr 8 23:47:46 smart amavis[18087]: (18087-01) ask_av (ClamAV-clamd)
FAILED - unexpected result:
/var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis
Package: amavisd-new
Version: 1:2.3.3-8
Followup-For: Bug #284491
Please have a look at http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/
Hope to see new package version soon.
Thank you.
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Package: amavisd-new
Version: 1:2.3.3-8
Severity: normal
Recently I have installed amavisd-new and clamav 0.88 (-base, -daemon,
-freshclam). I uncommented spam and virus scanners lists in
/etc/amavis/conf.d/15-content_filter_mode , and amavisd-new shows this
in its startup log :
Apr 8 23:13:42
Package: amavisd-new
Version: 1:2.3.3-8
Severity: wishlist
Hi,
Currently amavisd-new logs only spam hits level and whether
the message was passed or rejected. It would be great to also
see in the log a list of SA tests triggered by the rejected
message.
Package: netbase
Version: 4.25
Followup-For: Bug #87240
Hi,
Is it a good idea or not , to create a dummy package like
'dummy-inetd' and add it as an alternative dependency to netbase
dependency list (openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd | dummy-inetd) ?
Let its
Package: initramfs-tools
Version: 0.57b
Severity: normal
Hi,
I have a system with 2 IDE controllers, first is
VIA vt8233 driven by via82cxxx and second is PDC20267
driven by pdc202xx_old. My root fs is on /dev/hde. Once I
updated kernel to 2.6.16
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:31:35PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
just double checked -- recent 0.6.1-1 has failregex the same for ssh as
in 0.6.0-7. So if something is wrong it is wrong due to other reasons
that in 356112. Could you please double check what is the problem (if
any)?
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 06:35:53PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
'sensors' uses libsensors to read sensors values from /sys. Are you sure
you don't have an old library on your disk, because there is nothing in
the source code that corresponds to the syscalls in the strace?
What does 'ldd
Package: initramfs-tools
Version: 0.57b
Severity: wishlist
Hi,
I use this option since I like to mount my root fs with certain
options (like commit=3600 or whatever). Plain initrd regarded
it. Yaird regarded it. May be initramfs-tools should regard it
as
Package: fail2ban
Version: 0.6.1-1
Followup-For: Bug #356112
Hi,
You gave me interim version 0.6.0-7 that worked well unlike 0.6.0-6.
Why you decided not to pass this feature down to 0.6.1-1 ? :
May be you have one more working interim version for me ? :
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Package: lm-sensors
Version: 1:2.10.0-2
Severity: normal
Hi,
Here is my lsmod for i2c modules :
Module Size Used by
w83627hf 22608 0
w83781d29348 0
hwmon_vid 2432 2 w83627hf,w83781d
i2c_isa 4608
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Heh heh... nasty typo in the modified failregex broke fail2ban -6.
Please try the version available from
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/unstable/perspect/binary-all/net/fail2ban_0.6.0-7_all.deb
Please get back to me asap if it fixes the issue for you so I
Package: fail2ban
Version: 0.6.0-6
Severity: important
I have some serversrouters with logcheckfail2ban installed.
Until 0.6.0-6, fail2ban worked well and logcheck reported only 5 or less
breakin attempts from variour IPs on the Internet. This was a great
help and convenience from fail2ban. With
Package: hddtemp
Version: 0.3-beta14-8
Severity: wishlist
The actual version is at
http://www.guzu.net/linux/hddtemp.db
It contains some HDD descriptions which are missing in .db distribited
with .deb. For example ST330013A which I happened to use. Hope to see
updated version soon. Thank you in
Package: twiki
Severity: wishlist
... as of 2006-02-07.
Hope to see update package soon ...
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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux
Package: reportbug
Version: 3.18
Followup-For: Bug #341974
I tried to rebuild the package against python2.4.
Nothing hard except 's/2\.3/2\.4/'
in Debian control and scripts. It seems to work well,
however I did not test it extensively.
-- Package-specific
Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.25-1
Severity: normal
How to reproduce :
In .icewm/preferences, turn these on :
MinimizeToDesktop=1
SizeMaximized=1
TaskBarAutoHide=1
TaskBarKeepBelow=0
Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.24-2
Severity: important
With IceWM 1.2.24, my taskbar started to be covered by other
windows. Looked into my ~/.icewm/preferences and set
TaskBarKeepBelow=0 (it was 1 for some reason, but all worked
well in 1.2.23 - taskbar was above
Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.24-2
Severity: important
Hi,
My working pattern was : Ctrl-Alt-Del, then Space, then my
session is locked by xtrlock. What a surprise it was to discover
that this does not longer work in 1.2.24. Moreover, mouse clicks
do not
Package: grep
Version: 2.5.1.ds2-4
Severity: important
Here is the testcase. May be fgrep in some way distinguishes
between end-of-word and end-of-line, as my search samples were
words at the end of lines :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ unset LANG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ unset
Package: jnettop
Version: 0.11.0-2
Severity: wishlist
Dear maintainer and upstream author,
Currently jnettop refreshes its display each second and this
interval could not be changed. Most similar utilities
(top, trafshow) offer user some control over this
Package: swapd
Version: 0.2-10
Followup-For: Bug #227257
Dear maintainer, please consider this patch. It is for exactly what I
wanted. I use swapd rebuilt with this patch and it works great.
diff -uw swapd-0.2/meminfo.c swapd-0.2-1/meminfo.c
--- swapd-0.2/meminfo.c 2006-01-07 14:02:52.0
Package: reportbug
Version: 3.18
Severity: wishlist
debconf had split up its config DBs and now have passwords.dat
readable only for root. So when reportbug is run by ordinary user,
debconf-show exits with non-zero status, and reportbug writes in
report text that it has failed. While
Package: xdm
Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-1
Followup-For: Bug #345406
I think this bug deserves urgent fixing.
xdm-config copied from previous package version
(xdm_6.8.2.dfsg.1-11) works perfectly well.
Hoping to see updated package soon.
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Package: apt-proxy
Version: 1.9.32
Followup-For: Bug #316670
I have the same unpleasant things happening.
When apt-proxy works through http proxy (UserGate 2.8),
it often spews this AttributeError on first download
(usually of Release.gpg). Sometimes all works
Package: at
Version: 3.1.9
Followup-For: Bug #316442
I have the same unpleasant experience.
On Debian systems with Exim MTA that I have access to, atd
mailing works well. On my own system I have Courier-MTA,
and on another one there is postfix (it is Ubuntu-hoary
Package: at
Version: 3.1.9
Followup-For: Bug #316442
All is well with postfix.
Badness happens only with ssmtp and Courier MTA, as is felt now.
No blame to postfix.
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APT policy: (500,
Package: courier-filter-perl
Version: 0.16
Severity: wishlist
http://search.cpan.org/~jmehnle/Courier-Filter-0.17/
Hope dear maintainer would pack it into .deb soon :
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Package: sysklogd
Version: 1.4.1-17ubuntu3
Followup-For: Bug #104278
Hi,
Good patch. I think it is completely suitable for inclusion even
in its 4-year-old form. Logrotate should really override syslog's
own rotation scripts when it is installed over existing
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:15:26PM -0500, Michael C. Toren wrote:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:53:08PM +0300, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
May be tcptraceroute has some problems with SLL incapsulation?
If that was the case, the symptoms would most likely be that tcpdump would
report bidirectional
Package: python-uno
Severity: wishlist
After some cross-breeding with Ubuntu Breezy, I have got 'python'
package of version 2.4.*, which forbids installation of python-uno from
Debian. To rebuild python-uno from source, I have to download 235 MB of
source archives, which is not a good option
Package: pptpd
Version: 1.2.1-5
Severity: normal
Here is a sample :
qavpnppp1 195.24.136.110 21:480.00s 24233days ?-
Sometimes it prints '?' however. But not always. May be this is 'w' bug,
don't know. It just can't open /dev/ppp1 as I have seen from
strace/ltrace.
--
Dear people,
This was indeed a kernel bug in 2.6.13, fixed in 2.6.13.1
Sorry for disturbing you.
Please close this bug.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:43:15PM -0400, David Coe wrote:
Wladimir Mutel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
This started to happen after
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:05:17PM -0400, Michael C. Toren wrote:
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:53:08PM +0300, Wladimir Mutel wrote:
Being used through ppp0, tcpraceroute just writes stars as it gets
timeout. Looking into ppp0 with tcpdump does not show any sensible
traffic outgoing. May
Package: tcptraceroute
Version: 1.5beta6-1
Severity: important
Being used through ppp0, tcpraceroute just writes stars as it gets
timeout. Looking into ppp0 with tcpdump does not show any sensible
traffic outgoing. May be tcptraceroute has some problems with SLL
incapsulation ? This started to
Package: bandersnatch
Version: 0.3-2
Severity: normal
MySQL documentation recommends to use GRANT/REVOKE commands to manage
user's permissions. While Bandersnatch HOWTO and their script
(bandersnatch.sql) prefer to manipulate MySQL security tables directly
(via INSERT), and then you have to
Package: python2.4-psycopg
Version: 1.1.19-1
Severity: important
How to reproduce :
$ sudo apt-get install python2.4-psycopg
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
python2.4-psycopg
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 06:09:36PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
Looking for a different way of seeing things, I find that xfd can display
TrueType fonts (in a limited way - no size changes). If I run
xfd -fa Terminus
Oh yes. Running xfd in en_US.UTF-8 locale, I indeed get only
After one upgrade, I have found that my xterm started to display
'fixed' font. It started to skip these 'terminus' XLFDs in some way.
Then I did some juggling (copied XLFDs from XTerm to UXTerm ot vice
versa, don't remember exactly), and Terminus returned back. But
Ok, I decided to comment out this 'fontFace'. And know what ?
The localization hell has gone ! : Now if only I could get back
my nice boldification that I had in the past ... :
Thanks to developers, in 6.8.2.dfsg.1-3 boldification hell was
fixed as well. Now
Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.22-2
Severity: important
How to reproduce :
0. Generate locales en_US.UTF-8 and uk_UA.UTF-8
1. Start icewm with locale en_US.UTF-8
2. Start Mozilla from icewm.
3. In Mozilla, navigate to page with Russian title, like
http://linux.org.ru
4. See big space
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:36:02PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
/usr/build/xterm/xterm-203b (101) ./testit
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default
Package: xterm
Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-2
Severity: important
How to reproduce :
1. Create/generate locales for en_US.UTF-8 and uk_UA.UTF-8
2. Add '*faceName: Terminus' into app-defaults/XTerm (Terminus has
enough Unicode characters for both Latin and Cyrillic).
3. Start xterm (or uxterm)
Package: dante-server
Version: 1.1.14-2
Followup-For: Bug #304037
Of course we plain users can build it by ourselves.
But what a great pleasure would be to have it built by
authoritative Debian package maintainer ! :
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Package: icewm
Version: 1.2.21-2
Severity: important
Once I wanted icewm to monitor activity on 4 interfaces
(eth0,eth1,eth2,ppp0). After adding ppp0 to my 'preferences', I
noticed that it is not shown next to eth2, but instead there is
thin moving line somewhere
Package: mawk
Version: 1.3.3-11
Followup-For: Bug #302590
This is only occured under fakeroot. Having changed 'fakeroot' to
'sudo', I got rid of this message. Reassing to fakeroot ?
(sorry for my libc6 version :)
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APT prefers
Package: netdiag
Version: 0.7-7
Severity: important
Sometimes when run with hostname resolving, netdiag's trafshow stops
updating its display and so becomes useless. ltrace shows it sticks
somewhere in gethostbyaddr, and strace - somewhere in futex.
Btw, there is other implementation of
Package: mutt
Version: 1.5.6-20040907+2
Severity: normal
Suppose I get an attachment with filename '_.pps'
(in
Russian, Wonderful_story.pps). When I try to save it, mutt proposes me a
filename '=?koi8-r?B?/tXExdPOwdFfydPUz9LJ0S5wcHM=?=' . What I would like
to expect from mutt, is to decode this
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