Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-11-10 Thread Frank Küster
Hilmar Preusse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whether we distribute any gf files, and since this is not the case, it seemed not necessary to me. But we should keep in mind that add-on font packages might have .gf files. Metafont creates gf files,

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-11-09 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 27.10.05 Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, /usr/bin/pktogf (convert packed font files to generic font files) /usr/bin/gftopk (and back) This is used by mktexpk! So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whether we

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users be to break the package into a core package, which is the common stuff (somewhat arbitrarily defined), which

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 11:37:47AM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users be to break the package into a core package,

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed up to here. /usr/bin/tangle /usr/bin/tie /usr/bin/ctangle /usr/bin/weave /usr/bin/ctie /usr/bin/cweave (CWEB stuff) Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of dependencies. Could probably lose them to tetex-bin-extra

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: mpost, mpto, makempx /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost) /usr/bin/mptopdf I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a modern TeX distribution, so I'd suggest keeping it in the core. Hm, well.

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. guidelines for splitting [...] 3. Some possible splitting schemes === I have now set up a project homepage on alioth http://pkg-tetex.alioth.debian.org/ with only one topic, splitting.

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: mpost, mpto, makempx /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost) /usr/bin/mptopdf I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a modern TeX distribution, so I'd

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. guidelines for splitting [...] 3. Some possible splitting schemes === I have now set up a project homepage on alioth

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:56:21PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of dependencies. Could probably lose them to tetex-bin-extra or tetex-bin-litprog, though. That was all I was talking about:

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-26 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 02:56:29PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: Here are some more suggestions for the opt-out list, including what you already provided: omega, aleph, omfonts, odvicopy, odvitype, otangle, otp2ocp, outocp (Omega) /usr/bin/opl2ofm /usr/bin/ovf2ovp

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dvipdfm ebb (unsure about those) I don't think we need them in tetex-bin-core or however it's going to be called. I don't think that dvipdfm is used to create pdf in any automated system. We can always put it back if somebody complains. Or rather, as

Bug#302035: Non-European fonts: tetex-base or -extra? (was: Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian)

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if available. To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to produce documentation in Russian, Greek

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: I expect that teTeX will continue to be the standard package for creating documentation when building a Debian package, and I think that we should try to develop our splitting schemes mainly along

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 19:51 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Do you think it should be possible to have combinations like tetex-bin, tetex-base plus ConTeXt from texlive? Would be nice, but not strictly necessary. Or do you think that someone will want tetex-extra on top of some parts of

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Dear all, there are a lot of requests for a more clever splitting of tetex-base, -bin, and -extra in the BTS. Now that we are early in the release cycle of etch, and teTeX-3.0 is finally in unstable, I want to approach the question of splitting. This mail goes to all the bugs that refer to

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: 3.1 tetex-bin * minimal scheme ^^ tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting files with dh_* and writing the necessary control

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: 3.1 tetex-bin * minimal scheme ^^ tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting files with dh_*

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: regarding tetex-bin a) #78926: If possible, it'd be nice if dvips were a seperate package, so that users of printfilters, e.g., don't need tetex-bin installed. [is this really a realistic scenario? How many systems are there

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 17:27 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Julian Gilbey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: * advanced scheme ^^^ Additionally, tetex-bin-nox is split into tetex-bin-mini and tetex-bin-extra (or

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
Some additions On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:40 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote: tetex-bin-extra: omega, aleph, omfonts, odvicopy, odvitype, otangle, otp2ocp, outocp (Omega) mkocp (Omega) mpost, mpto, makempx (MetaPost) dmp dvitomp (MetaPost) texexec (ConTeXt) pltotf, tftopl, vftovp, vptovf

Bug#302035: Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:28 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if available. To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to produce documentation