Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-18 Thread Daniel Baumann
Hi Mark, On 6/18/23 10:33, Mark Hindley wrote: > I would still disagree with that. just to avoid misunderstandings, my current understanding is: 1) technical issue: non-bootable systems on some non-systemd systems - can be handled by moving mdadm initscripts into orphan-sysvinit-sc

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-18 Thread Mark Hindley
Daniel, Many thanks. On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 07:48:03AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Assuming there are no problems of having mdadm initscripts in > orphan-sysvinit-scripts, I think this is the best way forward. I would still disagree with that. However, even if that were the path taken, it do

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-17 Thread Daniel Baumann
Hi Mark, On 6/17/23 19:13, Mark Hindley wrote: > I am asking gently for the reinstatement of the recently removed non-systemd > initscripts. I hear you, but I prefer not doing this for the stated reasons. How about getting the mdadm initscript into orphan-sysvinit-scripts? I read the section ab

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-17 Thread Mark Hindley
Michael, On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 07:17:40PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: > You're still not getting the point. Which is the lack of real infrastructure > within other init systems, which needs real work. Which, apparently, > neither you nor other complainers are willing to do. I am not complain

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-17 Thread Michael Tokarev
17.06.2023 19:05, Mark Hindley wrote: Michael, On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 08:07:52AM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: I wonder do we want no mdadm in debian at all or working mdadm with systemd? From the two alternatives I definitely prefer the working one.. That isn't the choice on offer. It i

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-17 Thread Mark Hindley
Michael, On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 08:07:52AM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: > I wonder do we want no mdadm in debian at all or working mdadm with systemd? > From the two alternatives I definitely prefer the working one.. That isn't the choice on offer. The choice is mdadm in Debian which is only us

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-16 Thread Michael Tokarev
17.06.2023 06:30, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: .. Please consider bumping this bug to a Severity that keeps it from migrating to testing/trixie until this is resolved. # I'll be putting mdadm on hold on my systems for the time being. I wonder do we want no mdadm in debian at all or working mdadm wit

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Thanks for forwarding this, Mark. Daniel, I'm not particularly charmed by the retitling to show note about missing boot integration for non-systemd I have a few runit-init based systems with mdadm that run testing, which, thankfully, still has 4.2-5. The version in sid is old enough to m

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-16 Thread Mark Hindley
Daniel, Many thanks for your reply. On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 03:32:23PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > It would be a great help to users of non-systemd inits if you could restore > > them. > > thanks you for your report. > > Personally I'm using systemd, but in general I fully agree that as

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-13 Thread Daniel Baumann
retitle 1037496 show note about missing boot integration for non-systemd thanks Hi Mark, On 6/13/23 14:28, Mark Hindley wrote: > It would be a great help to users of non-systemd inits if you could restore > them. thanks you for your report. Personally I'm using systemd, but in general I fully

Bug#1037496: mdadm: Please restore support for use without systemd as PID 1

2023-06-13 Thread Mark Hindley
Source: mdadm Version: 4.2+20230227-1 Severity: normal Dear Daniel, SysV initscripts and cron jobs have recently been removed from mdadm. It would be a great help to users of non-systemd inits if you could restore them. Service files and initscripts can happily coexist and systemd will use the a