Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-17 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Adam, Am Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 06:52:11PM +0100 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: > An initial version, rewriting mails to Google-hosted domains from > "external" e-mail addresses (those for which debian.org's mail relays > don't consider themselves authoritative, so mostly not *.debian.org and >

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2023-08-13 at 10:57 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 23:13 +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 01:41:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically > > > email > > > forwarding to Gmail, which

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 14, Stephen Frost wrote: >If someone has some idea how to get them to care about ARC, I'd love to >hear about it, as I have folks on the one hand who view DKIM/DMARC as >too painful to set up but then they end up with bounces from gmail due >to my forwarding of messages through my server

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-13 Thread Stephen Frost
Greetings, * Cord Beermann (c...@debian.org) wrote: > As listmaster i can confirm that it is a big problem to deliver Mails to > gmail/outlook/yahoo. Yahoo Subscribers are mostly gone by now because they > bounced a lot, for gmail it is so much that we just ignore bounces because of > those

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-13 Thread Stephen Frost
Greetings, * Mattia Rizzolo (mat...@debian.org) wrote: > Alternatively, I wonder if ARC nowadays is respected enough (and if > Google cares about it)... I personally don't have any system with ARC > under my care. Sadly, no, they don't seem to care one bit about ARC, except possibly if it's

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-13 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Russ Allbery) hast geschrieben: >The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically email >forwarding to Gmail, which has recently ramped up the amount of >verification it does on messages. Because of email forwarding, Gmail sees >a message purportedly from helgefjell.de

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-13 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 23:13 +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 01:41:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically > > email > > forwarding to Gmail, which has recently ramped up the amount of > > verification it does on

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 01:41:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically email > forwarding to Gmail, which has recently ramped up the amount of > verification it does on messages. Because of email forwarding, Gmail sees > a message

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Helge Kreutzmann writes: > It's just that I never had this problem with mails to people with > @debian.org addresses, so either my new configuration or some other > change, I don't know. The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically email forwarding to Gmail, which has

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Russ, Am Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 11:31:35AM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Helge Kreutzmann writes: > > > I don't know how it worked so far, and the error could be on my side, as > > I recently switched my e-mail setup; however, I don't see anything I can > > do to make DKIM/SPF point to

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Adam, Am Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 06:11:43PM +0100 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: > On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 17:08 +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > Directly gmail accepts it. > > > > I'm not sure why the sigh, but in any case your direct mail presumably > succeeds because it passes the SPF check. I

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Helge Kreutzmann writes: > I don't know how it worked so far, and the error could be on my side, as > I recently switched my e-mail setup; however, I don't see anything I can > do to make DKIM/SPF point to @debian.org instead of @helgefjell.de, when > transferring e-mail to gmail. The mail to

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 17:08 +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > Hello Adam, > Am Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 05:35:52PM +0100 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: > > On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 15:54 +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: [...] > > > 550-5.7.26 This mail is unauthenticated, which poses a > > > security > > >

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Adam, Am Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 05:35:52PM +0100 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: > On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 15:54 +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > > If I try to mail e.g. Marcos Fouces , this no > > longer works. I get the following error message: > > > > Contacting DSA is generally a better way to

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi, On Sat, 2023-08-12 at 15:54 +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > If I try to mail e.g. Marcos Fouces , this no > longer works. I get the following error message: > Contacting DSA is generally a better way to ask about infrastructure things than filing bugs on high-level pseudo-packages. > This

Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken

2023-08-12 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Package: project Severity: important If I try to mail e.g. Marcos Fouces , this no longer works. I get the following error message: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a