Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 06:52:19PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > OK. > I'm not going to have time to generate patches for alternatives any time > soon, but I'd be happy to make time to review them. Thanks, appreciate it! I'll see if I can prepare patches for both Heimdal and MIT Kerberos. For consi

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
OK. I'm not going to have time to generate patches for alternatives any time soon, but I'd be happy to make time to review them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 02:27:02PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Yeah, my preference here would be alternatives for kadmin and ktutil and > even though alternatives is not a perfect fit. > > I guess renaming is another option. Alternatives would be least intrusive to existing users; I think I like t

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
Yeah, my preference here would be alternatives for kadmin and ktutil and even though alternatives is not a perfect fit. I guess renaming is another option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.de

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: > Nod. > I find I definitely use ktutil all the time, regardless of how I'm > getting keytabs. > Even if I'm using samba or something to generate keytabs, I kind of > expect ktutil to be present when kinit is present. That's true -- I do the same. Particularly with Heimdal'

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: Russ> Sam Hartman writes: >> I don't really support the split because it seems like kadmin is >> something you want if you are going to be dealing with keytabs, >> so it seems like it belongs in krb5-user. Russ> No one other than KDC admi

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: > I don't really support the split because it seems like kadmin is > something you want if you are going to be dealing with keytabs, so it > seems like it belongs in krb5-user. No one other than KDC administrators uses kadmin at Stanford, since we use wallet for all keytab ma

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-04 Thread Sam Hartman
I don't really support the split because it seems like kadmin is something you want if you are going to be dealing with keytabs, so it seems like it belongs in krb5-user. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-02 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:18:13PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: It would be really nice to be able to co-install the basic clients, though, which makes me think that the more administrator-oriented tools (kadmin and ktutil) might make sense to split off

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Brian May
On 2 June 2014 07:28, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > It would be really nice to be able to co-install the basic clients, > > though, which makes me think that the more administrator-oriented tools > > (kadmin and ktutil) might make sense to split off into a separate package > > that continues to conf

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:18:13PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Jelmer Vernooij writes: > > > I should also note that the usefulness of alternatives for these > > (kadmin, ktutil) is less clear to me. The kadmin and ktutil command-line > > interfaces are quite but not exactly similar. > > The kt

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Benjamin Kaduk writes: > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The ktutil is quite different, yes. (It would be nice if the MIT >> version would support the Heimdal command-line interface, since it's >> far more useful than the MIT version is.) > If you wanted to write up a summary of what

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: Jelmer Vernooij writes: I should also note that the usefulness of alternatives for these (kadmin, ktutil) is less clear to me. The kadmin and ktutil command-line interfaces are quite but not exactly similar. (MIT's k5srvutil is a shell script that cal

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Jelmer Vernooij writes: > I should also note that the usefulness of alternatives for these > (kadmin, ktutil) is less clear to me. The kadmin and ktutil command-line > interfaces are quite but not exactly similar. The ktutil is quite different, yes. (It would be nice if the MIT version would su

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:58:55PM +0200, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:56:11PM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > > > >FWIW, Heimdal now uses alternatives for kinit and klist. > > > > > >If we'd like to be able to use alternatives

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:56:11PM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: > > >FWIW, Heimdal now uses alternatives for kinit and klist. > > > >If we'd like to be able to use alternatives, we would also need to use > >them (in addition to kinit and klist) for the

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014, Jelmer Vernooij wrote: FWIW, Heimdal now uses alternatives for kinit and klist. If we'd like to be able to use alternatives, we would also need to use them (in addition to kinit and klist) for the following binaries and their manpages: /usr/bin/kswitch /usr/bin/kdestroy /us

Bug#213316: Alternatives enabled for Heimdal's kinit/klist

2014-06-01 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
FWIW, Heimdal now uses alternatives for kinit and klist. If we'd like to be able to use alternatives, we would also need to use them (in addition to kinit and klist) for the following binaries and their manpages: /usr/bin/kswitch /usr/bin/kdestroy /usr/bin/ksu /usr/bin/kpasswd Cheers, Jelmer