Package: bash Version: 3.1-1 Followup-For: Bug #333953 Even though LC_COLLATE is not set, you've got LANG set to EN_us (as your bug report says), so LC_COLLATE inherits the value of LANG.
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-fileutils/2001-03/msg00027.html for some more information I agree that this is a dangerous "feature" for most of us, who expect [a-z] not to match uppercase letters. I just discovered this myself, and I would certainly call this a *BUG* in that it changes the expected behavior of matching. I think Debian should ensure that bash (and sort?) behaves "as expected" unless an explicit choice is made to use locale processing. I don't think this should be done via looking at LANG (or even LC_COLLATE), since it is quite possible that a non-english-speaker may also expect "C" semantics from the shell (especially if they are learning from a textbook). I'd suggest a dpkg configuration option for bash to "force LC_COLLATE=C" which defaults to "yes". Note that I *don't* think that this should be an environment setting, since (especially if I am not a native english speaking) may want LANG=<my native language> in my environment so that applications inherit the correct value, but still want bash to use C semantics (even if it is invoked from a command line where LANG=<my native language>). [Note that there are a number of locations where bash uses locale. It *should* still use the LANG=<native language> info when communicating with the user. It's just the uses in regular expressions and string comparisons which are at issue here.] On the other hand, maybe we should be teaching people that ranges in regular expressions are ill-defined, and we should all be using [[:lower:]] instead. In that case, perhaps we should emit a warning every time a range is used, unless the shell option bash_shut_up_about_ranges_I_know_they_are_borked is set? --scott -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-rc5 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Versions of packages bash depends on: ii base-files 3.1.9 Debian base system miscellaneous f ii debianutils 2.15.2 Miscellaneous utilities specific t ii libc6 2.3.5-8.1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libncurses5 5.5-1 Shared libraries for terminal hand bash recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
