Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-02-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
Package: ntpdate Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Please create a udeb for ntpdate. We'd like to use this in the installer to set the clock properly. Below is a patch. If there are any other features that can be disabled that are not essential, please go ahead. diff

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-08-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-17 14:14]: > Can I assume that the d-i group settled on using either rdate or a > minimal sntp client rather than ntpdate? I've tried rdate now. Here are my observations: - It basically seems to work and is very small. - Somtimes rdate doesn't w

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-08-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 19 August 2006 15:50, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > - It basically seems to work and is very small. Which is a big plus. > - Somtimes rdate doesn't work, but this applies both to busybox and >the stand-alone variant. I get errors like "69.25.96.13 did not >send the complete tim

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-08-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-08-19 16:47]: > Seems this could be worked around easily by just retrying a few > times if that error is returned (until it is fixed). Yes. > Is there a time-out when it really cannot connect to a server? Yes, that seems to work. > Installations are rare en

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-14 23:27]: > ntpdate doesn't set the hardware clock, so the only thing this would > achieve is having a good clock while the installer runs. Is that > useful? Yes, otherwise we e.g. end up with a filesystem that was modified in 1970 and e2fsck will

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-14 Thread Rick Thomas
NTP is something I know a bit about. Yeah, ntpdate will do the job, and it's a good bit smaller than the full ntp-simple package. The alternative you were thinking of *may* be "chrony". Both implement enough of the network time protocol (NTP) to do what you want. However, keep in mind tha

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-15 01:48]: > Yeah, ntpdate will do the job, and it's a good bit smaller than the > full ntp-simple package. > The alternative you were thinking of *may* be "chrony". Maybe, although it seems that ntpdate is signiticantly smaller than chron. > However,

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Since I filed this bug, someone suggested that a tool other than ntp > might be better since it's smaller. Unfortunately, I cannot remember > the name right now. I'm CCing -boot so other people can comment, but > unless there are great ideas, I'm still interesting in hav

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-15 01:48]: Yeah, ntpdate will do the job, and it's a good bit smaller than the full ntp-simple package. The alternative you were thinking of *may* be "chrony". Maybe, although it seems that ntpda

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-17 20:09]: > > Since I filed this bug, someone suggested that a tool other than ntp > > might be better since it's smaller. Unfortunately, I cannot remember > > the name right now. I'm CCing -boot so other people can comment, but > Perhaps you were thinki

Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2007-06-18 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-17 01:14]: > What's the status with this? There hasn't been any progress. However, from previous discussions it seems that rdate is more appropriate for d-i than ntpdate, so I suggest you simply close this bug report. I'm CCing debian-boot so other

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:19:52AM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-14 23:27]: > > ntpdate doesn't set the hardware clock, so the only thing this would > > achieve is having a good clock while the installer runs. Is that > > useful? > > Yes, otherwi

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-15 00:53]: > Because of recent changed I did (that haven't been commited yet), > ntpdate now depends on libcrypto, so the ntpdate-udeb would end > up with a dependency on libcrypto0.9.8-udeb. I hope that's not a > problem? Is this libcrypto dependency st

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:51:05PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-15 00:53]: > > Because of recent changed I did (that haven't been commited yet), > > ntpdate now depends on libcrypto, so the ntpdate-udeb would end > > up with a dependency on libcrypto0.

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 23:53 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I should also point out that the ntpdate program is deprecated upstream, > is no longer maintained, and no bugs are being fixed for it. I've been telling people that for years, but upstream still hasn't made it go away... and even if

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 15, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this libcrypto dependency strictly needed (what for) or could the > udeb be built in a way that it's needed? libcrypto0.9.8-udeb appears > to be about a meg in size while ntpdate has less than 50K. It's still very big. For d-i we should

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 12:23:07PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 16, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's still very big. For d-i we should use a simpler SNTP-only client, > > > which would not be bigger than a few KB. > > sntp was never part of the debian ntp package, and has

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 11:19:17AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 15, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is this libcrypto dependency strictly needed (what for) or could the > > udeb be built in a way that it's needed? libcrypto0.9.8-udeb appears > > to be about a meg in size

Bug#352610: [pkg-ntp-maintainers] Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 16, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's still very big. For d-i we should use a simpler SNTP-only client, > > which would not be bigger than a few KB. > sntp was never part of the debian ntp package, and has license > problems so is removed in the current svn version. As it is