Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 23:17:02 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 10:40:35PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > I think that this is exactly what people opposing to copyright > > assignment want to avoid: giving permission to re-license under yet > > unknown terms. > > I don't t

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:23:57 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 10:05:00PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Good point, but where does it claim so? > > In the footer of every page. My quote: > > Copyright © 1997-2011 SPI and others; See license terms > > can be found in

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 11:17:02PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > I'm under the *impression* that an important amount of people objecting > copyright assignments do so to avoid the risk that their contributions > get re-licensed under terms that go against their moral beliefs about > soft

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 10:40:35PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > I think that this is exactly what people opposing to copyright > assignment want to avoid: giving permission to re-license under yet > unknown terms. I don't think you should make absolute statements for *all* the people opposing co

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:15:03 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [...] > A possible way out, that I'm hereby suggesting, is to ask for the right > to re-license (instead of copyright assignment), but to ask a blanket > permission to re-license under any DFSG-free license the -www team will > see fit, n

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 07:38:24PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > Recent discussions on bug #388141 [1] (starting at message #206), > include a plan to ask for copyright assignments to SPI from all future > and (then) past contributors. > I think this is the wrong approach. > > The Debian Project

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:50:17 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 07:38:24PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Secondly, the web site claims [3] to be copyrighted by SPI, while it's > > not [5]. > > As a side point: the above claim of yours is no longer true, see > #632175. The

Bug#388141: Debian official web site is still non-free

2012-01-08 Thread Francesco Poli
Hello! I see there's (at last) some activity on bug #388141 [1]. I am happy to see that, but I personally think it's going in a slightly wrong direction... :-( First of all, a brief summary of bug #238245 [2] and of bug #388141 [1] (which started as a clone of #238245 [2]), for debian-legal read