Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Reinhard Tartler
A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So far, I'm not aware of any regressions >> yet. I am aware that an updated ffmpeg could introduce regression. >> Therefore I rely that Sam will bump the SONAME of the libraries when he >> updates an incompatible version of ffmpeg in debian. > > (disclaime

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
[Executive summary: This discussion is about mplayer using an embedded copy of libavcodec instead of using the shared one from Debian] On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 12:24:24AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > BTW: I have been assuming that Moritz is report

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread A Mennucc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reinhard Tartler ha scritto: > xine is able to build against an out of tree ffmpeg. This is what the > current xine in etch is doing. (I was aware of this; I hope I made it clear in previous emails ) > So far, I'm not aware of any regressions > yet.

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:23:31PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > Sorry if I was sounding aggressive, this was not my intention. I apologise too if you felt hurt by me sounding like you were lying. > Anyway, the confusion seems to have been cleared - good. Sure. :) Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 02:58:25PM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 01:30:08PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:33:07PM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > > > It just happens that I have a lot of H.264-encoded videos which > > > will *not* run adequatel

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 01:30:08PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:33:07PM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > > It just happens that I have a lot of H.264-encoded videos which > > will *not* run adequately on the hardware you name above. We *may* > > not have the same videos..

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:33:07PM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:52:48AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 12:31:26AM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > > > This is a false argument. Come one please, do not attempt to tell me > > > that you can decent

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:52:48AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 12:31:26AM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > > This is a false argument. Come one please, do not attempt to tell me > > that you can decently play a H.264-encoded video on a non-GHz machine > > even with SIMD ins

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 12:05:46AM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > A Mennucc wrote: > > So I think that > > [O] is not worth the effort: we ruin MPlayer (for sure) for hope of a > > (not sure) benefit in security. > > I don't buy the argument of a completely crippled MPlayer. E.g. the > libavco

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 12:31:26AM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 11:34:37PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > > That benchmark was done on x86. But let's face it, it's the > > architecture that counts. Mind that I am writing this from a PPC, which > > is my main machine.. >

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-05 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 12:24:24AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote: > Now I really need to hear the opinion of the xine and ffmpeg Debian > people (and also of gstreamer and any other package using ffmpeg) about [N] xine is able to build against an out of tree ffmpeg. This is what the current xine in etch

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-03 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 11:34:37PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > That benchmark was done on x86. But let's face it, it's the > architecture that counts. Mind that I am writing this from a PPC, which > is my main machine.. I disagree, amd64 would be the architecture which counts and amd64 has eno

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-11-03 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:43:17PM +0100, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:46:01PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > > Removing the embedded copies of FFmpeg libraries from MPlayer is a bad > > idea. > > For the workload on the security team and the overall quality of Debian > (a

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-31 Thread A Mennucc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 BTW: I have been assuming that Moritz is reporting the consensus of the whole security team , and not only his personal opinion... is it so? whereas Joey reported the opinion of the release people (that was not opposite to [A]) I personally may embra

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-31 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
A Mennucc wrote: > The overhead [O] may simply be not worth the (supposed) future benefit > for security. It's not theoretical, but a genuine problem that affects us here and today. We've had the whole mess for CVE-2005-4048, we're currently encountering it with CVE-2006-4799/CVE-2006-4800 and we'

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-31 Thread A Mennucc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi I would like to add my 2¢ (although Dario's email pretty much says it all) Here are 3 possible scenarios: [N] The safest way to linking MPlayer with dynamical FFmpeg would be : each time there is a MPlayer release, Diego provides us with the corr

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-31 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi Diego, On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:46:01PM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote: > Removing the embedded copies of FFmpeg libraries from MPlayer is a bad > idea. For the workload on the security team and the overall quality of Debian (a single source package for whatever produced binary packages), I stro

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-31 Thread Diego Biurrun
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 12:53:37AM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:08:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > > > > > > The testing security team tracks probably hundreds of possibly security > > > > relevant code copies in data/embedded-code-co

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-28 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:08:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > severity 395252 serious > > thanks > > > > > The testing security team tracks probably hundreds of possibly security > > > relevant code copies in data/embedded-code-copies in their svn repo. As > > > long a

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-28 Thread Joey Hess
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > severity 395252 serious > thanks > > > The testing security team tracks probably hundreds of possibly security > > relevant code copies in data/embedded-code-copies in their svn repo. As > > long as the security teams know about code copies, they can deal with > > updat

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-28 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
severity 395252 serious thanks > The testing security team tracks probably hundreds of possibly security > relevant code copies in data/embedded-code-copies in their svn repo. As > long as the security teams know about code copies, they can deal with > updates due to them. No, we have already way

Bug#395252: embedded code copies are not RC

2006-10-27 Thread Joey Hess
severity 395252 important thanks The testing security team tracks probably hundreds of possibly security relevant code copies in data/embedded-code-copies in their svn repo. As long as the security teams know about code copies, they can deal with updates due to them. Getting rid of embedded code c