Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, we can't pretend that "the GPL" is GPL-2 forever, so it would be a > bad idea to keep the GPL pointing to the old license. > The GPL is there for informative purposes only. Packages under GPLv2 or > later will still be under GPLv2 or later, and th

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Russ Allbery: > > > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> * Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070630 10:16]: > > > >>> But do we really want to license everything which is "GPL version 2 or > >>> later" under the GPL version 3? > > > >>> An

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Russ Allbery: > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> * Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070630 10:16]: > >>> But do we really want to license everything which is "GPL version 2 or >>> later" under the GPL version 3? > >>> And how do we discriminate between "GPL version 2 or later" and

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > AISI, the reason for using the unversioned link is that it means less > work for maintainers (and the work *is* significant when it comes to > lots of packages) who have to update the copyright file every time > license changes. This reason doesn't make

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070630 10:16]: >> But do we really want to license everything which is "GPL version 2 or >> later" under the GPL version 3? >> And how do we discriminate between "GPL version 2 or later" and "GPL >> version 3 or lat

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 12:49:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070630 10:16]: > > * Santiago Vila: > > > > > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > > > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Jul 1, 2007 at 12:49:58 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > If it says "version N or later", we should of course point to the > *earliest* version to give users the choice which version they want. > I don't understand this "of course", nor do I understand how the file we point to relates to th

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-07-01 Thread Andreas Barth
* Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070630 10:16]: > * Santiago Vila: > > > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these > > + licenses have been published by the Free Software Foundati

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Santiago Vila wrote: [...] > In other words, I think it would be ok if our copyright files were > worded like this: > > This program is free software. It is under GPL version 2 or later. On > Debian systems, the latest GPL version is in > /usr/share/commo

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Santiago Vila: > > > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these > > + licenses have been published by the Free Software Foundation, > > +

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Santiago Vila: > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these > + licenses have been published by the Free Software Foundation, > + hence using the symlinks could lead to ambiguit

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:17:00AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these > > + licenses have been publis

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-29 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:17:00AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > + file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in > + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these > + licenses have been published by the Free Software Foundation, > + he

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-29 Thread Santiago Vila
+ file. Packages should not refer to GPL and LGPL symlinks in + that directory since different, incompatible versions of these + licenses have been published by the Free Software Foundation, + hence using the symlinks could lead to ambiguity. I disagree with this.

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-29 Thread Santiago Vila
> This proposal does essentialy two things: > > - Disambiguate GPL/LGPL versioning requirement by extending it to any DFSG > compatible version the FSF may publish. > > - Deprecate use of symlinks, since they're a source of problems (as exposed > by GPLv3, see http://lists.debian.org/debi

Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-29 Thread Robert Millan
retitle 431109 [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks thanks On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:04:02PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Following /usr/share/doc/base-files/FAQ, I'm reassigning this to > debian-policy. > > Please read my email to debian-legal ad debian-pol