Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:40:07AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: Please can you be more specific? - versions you have tried All official versions (there has been a regression at some point, but unfortunately I can't say when it happened). I have tried the version from unstable, but

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Miriam Ruiz wrote: Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a good state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that time? I have removed everything under ~/.local/share/gnash, and now I started looking for anything containing 'gnash' in .

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
clone 467324 -1 reassign -1 gnash retitile -1 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break # don't know if this should be serious, but since gnash was never part # of a release, I guess important is ok severity -1 important thanks Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:06:34PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: This is no excuse for not contemplating stability, but in my experience with first-time users, they get the worst impression from youtube not working (and the response from the browser being utterly confusing) than with browser

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a good state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that time? I think

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a good state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that time? I think it is stable enough to be included in Lenny, but it is not

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:29:26AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: Note that usually people think of gnash in terms of the „flash plugin for firefox”, and since the gnash package doesn't actually offer that functionality, in tasksel we should talk about mozilla-plugin-gnash or

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 01:46:13PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:50:37AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Gnash maintainers: Do you think gnash overall stability is currently in a good state for lenny? If not, how viable is it to make it rock-solid by that time?

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:00:33PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: For the moment I'd prefer to keep it for some time in testing and see how it works for everyone before adding it to the desktop task, even though it works quite well now for me and for other people I've asked to try it, it needs

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal users won't really notice what they are running and might perceive debian in general as being-broken if they visit a site that has not-support flash content.

Bug#467564: Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
retitle 467564 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break # there seems to be a functional workaround, even if complex severity 467564 normal thanks retitile -1 gnash: debris from older versions make current ones break Unknown command or malformed arguments to command. I

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:40:05PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal users won't really notice what they are running and might perceive debian in general as

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Eddy Petrișor
On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in total have enough market power (read: userbase) to make much of a difference yet. We are getting closer to that point, but that doesn't mean that its wise to start the

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in total have enough market power (read: userbase) to make much of a difference yet. We are getting closer

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:41:07PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:40:05PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: The negative thing about installing gnash by default is that normal users won't really notice

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:17:42PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 05:48:47PM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: On 26/02/2008, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but face the truth: unfortunately, neither debian nor linux in total have enough market power (read:

Bug#467564: Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Eddy Petrișor [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I am not sure if gnash shouldn't conflict with the non-free flash plugin. That will probably make sense, as well as maybe conflicting with swfdec-mozilla ... or maybe using alternatives for switching? Miry

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 04:41:07PM +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: So for the time being, its looks far better to put the work into something that provides users with a superior user experience; for instance, superior by choice (like what the plugin finder improvement would do); grow the user

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-25 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:10:56AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: I use gnash regularly (in combination with adblock) and I think it's reasonably mature nowadays. At least, it works for the most common flash sites, like youtube. I disagree, lately, none of the official Debian packages worked

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-25 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:10:56AM +0200, Eddy Petrișor wrote: I use gnash regularly (in combination with adblock) and I think it's reasonably mature nowadays. At least, it works for the most common flash sites, like youtube. I disagree, lately, none of the official

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Millan
Package: tasksel Version: 2.71 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch I'd like to propose gnash browser plugins being added to the desktop task. A significant amount of websites nowadays use flash; significant enough that most of our first-time users are troubled with the difficulty of finding and

Bug#467324: include gnash in desktop?

2008-02-24 Thread Eddy Petrișor
Robert Millan wrote: Package: tasksel Version: 2.71 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch I'd like to propose gnash browser plugins being added to the desktop task. A significant amount of websites nowadays use flash; significant enough that most of our first-time users are troubled with the