Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, intrigeri wrote: > I have login 1:4.1.1-3 and libpam-modules 1.0.1-3. > > This obviously does not happen when logging via ssh/gdm/..., since > these do not use /etc/pam.d/login at all. Then, strictly speaking, the file lastlog is not always created when needed, as there are

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-28 Thread intrigeri
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, intrigeri wrote: >> , >> | /var/log/lastlog >> ` >> >> I could find no authoritative document saying if it has to exist or >> not. Anyway, the default /etc/pam.d/login provided by the login >> package enables the pam_lastlog.so module, that not only "prints the >> l

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, intrigeri wrote: > , > | /var/log/lastlog > ` > > I could find no authoritative document saying if it has to exist or > not. Anyway, the default /etc/pam.d/login provided by the login > package enables the pam_lastlog.so module, that not only "prints the > last login

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-06 Thread intrigeri
Hello, Santiago Vila wrote (06 Aug 2008 15:04:28 GMT) : > I would feel better if only this change (and not the one in > logrotate) were done for lenny. What's the status of the proposed > logrotate change? The proposed logrotate change (I guess you mean #488365) was an error, it’s been tagged won

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Oops, forgot the rationale for my previous message: At least the logrotate changes may be disabled by the user just by changing a configuration file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. I would feel better if only this change (and not the one in logrotate) were done for lenny. What's the status of the proposed logrotate change? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-08-06 Thread intrigeri
tags 488376 + patch thanks Hello, intrigeri wrote (28 Jun 2008 15:47:58 GMT) : > Santiago Vila wrote (28 Jun 2008 14:23:46 GMT) : >> I would be willing to change base-files postinst so that those >> files are only created in the initial install (performed by >> debootstrap from debian installer),

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-06-28 Thread intrigeri
Santiago Vila wrote (28 Jun 2008 14:23:46 GMT) : > I would be willing to change base-files postinst so that those files > are only created in the initial install (performed by debootstrap > from debian installer), and not on every upgrade. There is already > a block of code which only runs in the i

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-06-28 Thread intrigeri
Hello, Santiago Vila wrote (28 Jun 2008 14:28:52 GMT) : > Hmm, what about this from utmp(5)? >Unlike various other systems, where utmp logging can be >disabled by removing the file, utmp must always exist >on Linux. Right. As far as my research has gone, this is only true

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-06-28 Thread Santiago Vila
severity 488376 wishlist thanks Hmm, what about this from utmp(5)? Unlike various other systems, where utmp logging can be disabled by removing the file, utmp must always exist on Linux. I'm starting to think that base-files should not be blamed for creating those files. --

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-06-28 Thread Santiago Vila
I would be willing to change base-files postinst so that those files are only created in the initial install (performed by debootstrap from debian installer), and not on every upgrade. There is already a block of code which only runs in the initial install, it would be just a matter of moving the o

Bug#488376: base-files: silently enforces login book-keeping

2008-06-28 Thread intrigeri
Package: base-files Version: 4.0.4 Severity: normal Tags: security Hello, Context #1 : there is some work being done to to give the system administrator the means to implement site-logging policies ; today’s focus is to allow a Debian system administrator to disable, « the Debian way », login rec