Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-10-07 Thread Arnaud Ebalard
Hi, Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Then, someone should correct the code to support passing trust anchors, >>> allow passing the verify value, and document capabilities and >>> limitations. >> >> Gnus currently uses starttls if startt

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-10-07 Thread Matthias Andree
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Then, someone should correct the code to support passing trust anchors, >> allow passing the verify value, and document capabilities and >> limitations. > > Gnus currently uses starttls if starttls and gnutls-cli are available > for backward compatibili

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-10-02 Thread Simon Josefsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arnaud Ebalard) writes: "This software does not have any authentication capabilities: it does not allow you to authenticate your peer, which is a basic requirement for TLS/SSL to be used securely. You should only use it for testing purposes and not relaying i

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-23 Thread Riskó Gergely
> Then, someone should correct the code to support passing trust anchors, > allow passing the verify value, and document capabilities and > limitations. (*) I certainly don't have time to do it, and since I can't agree with the politics behind the whole SSL model, I don't think that I will have t

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread Arnaud Ebalard
Hi, Simon Josefsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Would it make sense to prefer gnutls-cli and warn when using starttls >> (if gnutls-cli is not installed)? > > Possibly, yes. I use stunnel w/ Gnus. Some friends of mine use socat. > Note that emacs2

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread Simon Josefsson
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Would it make sense to prefer gnutls-cli and warn when using starttls > (if gnutls-cli is not installed)? Possibly, yes. Note that emacs22 (the version in debian testing) supports both starttls and gnutls-cli, so the comment made earlier that removing t

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread Reiner Steib
[ Stripping some cc-ed lists because I only comment on the Gnus side of the issue. Adding starttls.el authors. ] On Mon, Sep 22 2008, Arnaud Ebalard wrote: > RISKO Gergely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> You surely knows about the gnus usage of this, since you CC'd the >> mailing list, sor

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread Arnaud Ebalard
Hi, [resending, forgot some CC] RISKO Gergely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry, I haven't noticed that you have cc'd mailing lists. Please > find below my first response to Arnaud. At least, thanks for the quick reply. > You surely knows about the gnus us

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread RISKO Gergely
Sorry, I haven't noticed that you have cc'd mailing lists. Please find below my first response to Arnaud. You surely knows about the gnus usage of this, since you CC'd the mailing list, sorry. So my option is that a disclaimer should be placed, but SSL with SSL_VERIFY_NONE is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH be

Bug#499774: starttls is a joke

2008-09-22 Thread Arnaud Ebalard
Package: starttls Version: 0.10-3 Severity: critical starttls package should IMHO be removed from Debian repositories, as it looks like a security joke: - it does not allow passing trust anchors to be used to verify the remote peer: are users expected to see the issue by themselves and not us