Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-31 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41:14AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41:14AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 22:28:31 Lennart Sorensen, vous avez écrit : > > If I recall well, one of the origin of the GNU fondation was the fact > > that having free drivers alowed one to actually *fix* issues he may have > > with his *own* hardware. Then, the very same reasoning can apply to > >

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:30:42PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Agreed, though it does not restrain us from asking for free firmware. > > If I recall well, one of the origin of the GNU fondation was the fact that > having free drivers alowed one to actually *fix* issues he may have with his >

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41:14AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:38:31AM +, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Romain Beauxis a écrit : > > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a > >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magi

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Török Edwin
On 2008-10-21 14:30, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking >> un-documented registers in a compl

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Romain Beauxis a écrit : > Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : >> Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a >> completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking >> un-documented registers in a complex chip. Think Intel gr

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Tuesday 21 October 2008 13:10:28 Peter Clifton, vous avez écrit : > Having no source-code for firmware is hardly that different to having a > completely open-source driver which does un-told magic by poking > un-documented registers in a complex chip. Think Intel graphics before > they released

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 12:45 +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > > beer)

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Luca Niccoli
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code.

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Didier Raboud
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008 11:41:14, vous avez écrit : > Package: general > Severity: serious > Justification: DFSG > > raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used > to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in > beer) on HP website [1], we don'

Bug#502959: general: raff.debian.org uses non-free software

2008-10-21 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Package: general Severity: serious Justification: DFSG raff.debian.org uses a Compaq Smart 5i RAID card. A flash memory is used to store the firmware. While the firmware is freely downloadable (as in beer) on HP website [1], we don't have the corresponding source code. I suggest that someone work