Bug#522776: Subject: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-11-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Albert Cahalan dixit: Any imperfection in a locale results in C, as ASCII as can be. Yes, and C shall not imply latin1 but 7-bit ASCII but 8-bit transparent. //mirabilos -- Sometimes they [people] care too much: pretty printers [and syntax highligh- ting, d.A.] mechanically produce pretty

Bug#522776: Subject: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-11-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Albert Cahalan dixit: Giacomo A. Catenazzi writes: I think nobody should use C or C.UTF-8 as user encoding. I’d use it. Debian doesn't ship a proper locale. I want sorting according to the raw Unicode values. Also called ASCIIbetically ☺ But C exists, C.UTF-8 doesn’t. * All ISO8859 locales

Bug#522776: Subject: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-11-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Roger Leigh writes: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: + Thorsten Glaser (Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:54:59 +): Except the ton which sets LC_ALL=C to get sane (parsable, dependable, historically compatible) output. These would then unset all other LC_* and LANG and

Bug#522776: Subject: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-11-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Andrew McMillan writes: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:15 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: So I've a question: what does UTF-8 mean in this context (C.UTF-8) ? ... So given a character which is outside of the 0x00 = 0x7f range, in an environment which does not specify an encoding, I would like to

Bug#522776: Subject: Re: Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

2009-11-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Giacomo A. Catenazzi writes: [Andrew McMillan probably] I think nobody should use C or C.UTF-8 as user encoding. And I really hope that Debian will try to convince user to use a proper locale. Debian doesn't ship a proper locale. I want sorting according to the raw Unicode values. I want