On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 08:11:34AM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
So if you honestly let me choose, I suggest we simply close this as a
non-bug.
What do you think of a tagging it wontfix instead of closing it? It
will leave a trace for people encountering the problem.
I thought about sugge
> So if you honestly let me choose, I suggest we simply close this as a
> non-bug.
What do you think of a tagging it wontfix instead of closing it? It will
leave a trace for people encountering the problem.
M.
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On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 11:00:42PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Until eventually fixed upstream, could we perhaps provide an empty
CRL at that fallback location?
If we want to do that we have to be careful to not break current
installations (which uses the CA bundle provided by ca-certific
> Until eventually fixed upstream, could we perhaps provide an empty
> CRL at that fallback location?
If we want to do that we have to be careful to not break current
installations (which uses the CA bundle provided by ca-certificates).
I still think that adding a dependency on ca-certiticates is
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:54:41AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
On 08/26/2010 09:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
According to Sympa web page it can instead be a directory containing
CA certificates.
And it can be undefined, meaning S/MIME is disabled.
AFAIR S/MIME is disabled by the
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:51:26AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
On 08/24/2010 11:44 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi Emmanuel,
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:20:38PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Package: sympa
Version: 6.0.1+dfsg-2
Severity: grave
To start correctly, task_manager.pl da
On 08/24/2010 11:44 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Hi Emmanuel,
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:20:38PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Package: sympa
Version: 6.0.1+dfsg-2
Severity: grave
To start correctly, task_manager.pl daemon expects
/usr/share/sympa/default/ca-bundle.crt to be a valid symlink
On 08/26/2010 09:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:24:46AM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Well, you not experiencing problems avoiding Recommends do not really
change the Debian definition of the Recommends: stanza:
>`Recommends'
> This declares a strong, but not abs
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:24:46AM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Well, you not experiencing problems avoiding Recommends do not really
change the Debian definition of the Recommends: stanza:
>`Recommends'
>This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
Nothing defines “absolute”
> Well, you not experiencing problems avoiding Recommends do not really
> change the Debian definition of the Recommends: stanza:
>
> >`Recommends'
> >This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
Nothing defines “absolute”, for me it is (absolute) because:
- SYMPA provides a symlink
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:50:39AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
On 08/25/2010 10:34 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:18:36AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke)
wrote:
IMHO Sympa daemons should work without packages in Recommends.
And ca-certificates isn't really a pro
On 08/25/2010 10:34 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:18:36AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
IMHO Sympa daemons should work without packages in Recommends.
And ca-certificates isn't really a problem to be depend on.
Is S/MIME a mandatory or optional feature of sympa
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:18:36AM +0200, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote:
IMHO Sympa daemons should work without packages in Recommends.
And ca-certificates isn't really a problem to be depend on.
Is S/MIME a mandatory or optional feature of sympa?
- Jonas
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:11:33AM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
When not respecting recommends, you cannot expect package to work
"out of the box" but will need some hand-tuning to get working.
I never install Recommends on my Debian machines (servers, desktop,
laptop). It's the first time
On 08/25/2010 09:11 AM, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
When not respecting recommends, you cannot expect package to work
"out of the box" but will need some hand-tuning to get working.
I never install Recommends on my Debian machines (servers, desktop,
laptop). It's the first time I encounter such
> When not respecting recommends, you cannot expect package to work
> "out of the box" but will need some hand-tuning to get working.
I never install Recommends on my Debian machines (servers, desktop,
laptop). It's the first time I encounter such problems.
> Do you dare say that it is not possib
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:09:09PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
You disabled the auto-pilot. Now steer manually. Particularly: Now
create that file missing since you chose to not have that file
provided by a package but would rather create it yourself.
So no, you did not (yet) convinc
> You disabled the auto-pilot. Now steer manually. Particularly: Now
> create that file missing since you chose to not have that file
> provided by a package but would rather create it yourself.
> So no, you did not (yet) convince me that this is a real bug.
You didn't convince me neither that
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 09:24:35PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
So sympa needs _some_ value for cafile, and ca-certificates provides
a sane default for _most_ situations.
The Recommends: stanza is _exactly intended for such situations.
There was a long-time bug in apt-get to wrongly trea
> So sympa needs _some_ value for cafile, and ca-certificates provides
> a sane default for _most_ situations.
>
> The Recommends: stanza is _exactly intended for such situations.
>
> There was a long-time bug in apt-get to wrongly treating Recommends
> like Suggests. It was a bug and it has bee
Hi Jonas,
> Is that path hardcoded or configurable?
Yes, the “cafile” option in sympa.conf but...
> If configurable, only recommending is the proper relation to use.
It's configurable but (AFAIK) the taskmanager daemon needs it to start.
If this option is not defined in sympa.conf, there is a fa
Hi Emmanuel,
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 09:20:38PM +0200, Emmanuel Bouthenot wrote:
Package: sympa
Version: 6.0.1+dfsg-2
Severity: grave
To start correctly, task_manager.pl daemon expects
/usr/share/sympa/default/ca-bundle.crt to be a valid symlink to
/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt.
ca-certif
Package: sympa
Version: 6.0.1+dfsg-2
Severity: grave
To start correctly, task_manager.pl daemon expects
/usr/share/sympa/default/ca-bundle.crt to be a valid symlink to
/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt.
ca-certificates (which provides /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt)
should be a real dependen
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