Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:10:14AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 27/05/11 10:59, Roger Leigh escribió: > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:49:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > >>(In particular, I'm thinking about creating /var/run and /var/lock > >>symlinks even if they are provided as directories in

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:10:14AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 27/05/11 10:59, Roger Leigh escribió: > >On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:49:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > >>Ok, I'm starting to understand the idea of making symlinks only in the > >>initial install. > >> > >>Assuming that I manage

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-27 Thread Santiago Vila
El 27/05/11 10:59, Roger Leigh escribió: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:49:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Ok, I'm starting to understand the idea of making symlinks only in the initial install. Assuming that I manage to do the same in a different way, it would be ok for you, right? Absolutely.

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:49:52AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Ok, I'm starting to understand the idea of making symlinks only in the > initial install. > > Assuming that I manage to do the same in a different way, it would be > ok for you, right? Absolutely. > (In particular, I'm thinking abo

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-27 Thread Santiago Vila
Ok, I'm starting to understand the idea of making symlinks only in the initial install. Assuming that I manage to do the same in a different way, it would be ok for you, right? (In particular, I'm thinking about creating /var/run and /var/lock symlinks even if they are provided as directories ins

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:16:20PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:04:50PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > [ Note: Thanks a lot for the patch and sorry for not answering before ]. > > > > El 26/05/11 16:37, Roger Leigh escribió: > > >@@ -32,8 +33,6 @@ > > > var/lib/dpkg > >

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:04:50PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > [ Note: Thanks a lot for the patch and sorry for not answering before ]. > > El 26/05/11 16:37, Roger Leigh escribió: > >@@ -32,8 +33,6 @@ > > var/lib/dpkg > > var/lib/misc > > var/local > > -var/lock > > var/log > > -var/run > >

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-26 Thread Santiago Vila
[ Note: Thanks a lot for the patch and sorry for not answering before ]. El 26/05/11 16:37, Roger Leigh escribió: @@ -32,8 +33,6 @@ var/lib/dpkg var/lib/misc var/local -var/lock var/log -var/run var/spool var/tmp So, you propose that base-files des not contain var/lock or var/run

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 01:52:05PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > There are four possible upgrade/install paths to consider: > > 1) squeeze→wheezy upgrade (normal system) > 2) squeeze→wheezy upgrade (chroot) > 3) clean wheezy install (normal system) > 4) clean wheezy install (chroot) > > With /run b

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 01:57:04PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > I feel that we are relying too much on base-files for no particular > > > reason. In fact, I don't see any benefit of having /run in base-files > > > at this point. > > > > The main need for this is debootstrap. There's two poss

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-18 Thread Santiago Vila
> > I feel that we are relying too much on base-files for no particular > > reason. In fact, I don't see any benefit of having /run in base-files > > at this point. > > The main need for this is debootstrap. There's two possible ways > initscripts can handle the migration: > > 1) Normal system >

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:37:18PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Just FYI, initscripts has now entered unstable to introduce /run > > support. If you would like to re-introduce /run into base-files > > that would be great. > > > > There will be a win

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-17 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 14 May 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > Just FYI, initscripts has now entered unstable to introduce /run > support. If you would like to re-introduce /run into base-files > that would be great. > > There will be a window of potential breakage if base-files is > upgraded prior to initscripts an

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-05-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:24:21AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Well, I added /run and this is what happened: > > http://bugs.debian.org/621036 > > Apparently, "it was stupid for base-files to ship /run without it > being useable", and the bug is reassigned to base-files. > > Does this mean I a

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:24:21AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Well, I added /run and this is what happened: > > http://bugs.debian.org/621036 > > Apparently, "it was stupid for base-files to ship /run without it > being useable", and the bug is reassigned to base-files. > > Does this mean I a

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Well, I added /run and this is what happened: http://bugs.debian.org/621036 Apparently, "it was stupid for base-files to ship /run without it being useable", and the bug is reassigned to base-files. Does this mean I am supposed to setup /run as well? That would be completely crazy! Please advis

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-04 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:50:47PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > If we are going to make an exception to the > > FHS, could you please amend policy accordingly? (cloning this report > > and reassigning the clone to debian-policy would be a good start). > > I'll make a patch documenting the exce

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-04 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 11:35:03AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Hi Santiago, > * If I add /run to base-files, what would prevent anyone from > submitting a bug report against base-files saying "this is a > FHS/policy violation"? This isn't strictly an FHS violation, from what I understand and hav

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-04 Thread Santiago Vila
Ok, now that the patch has "stabilized", some questions: * If I add /run to base-files, what would prevent anyone from submitting a bug report against base-files saying "this is a FHS/policy violation"? If we are going to make an exception to the FHS, could you please amend policy accordingly? (cl

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 04:27:01PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:40:52AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:43:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Attached is a patch for adding a new top-level directory, /run. > > > > > > References: > > > http://th

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:40:52AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:43:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Attached is a patch for adding a new top-level directory, /run. > > > > References: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/146976 > > https://lwn.net

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:43:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Attached is a patch for adding a new top-level directory, /run. > > References: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/146976 > https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/ > > This has already been adopted by Fedora, and it's

Bug#620157: base-files: Please add top-level /run

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
Package: base-files Version: 6.1 Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi Santiago, Attached is a patch for adding a new top-level directory, /run. References: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/146976 https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/ This has already been adopted by Fedora, and it'