Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Charles Plessy wrote: before it is too late. I also would like to add that it is a bit of a slippery slope to use seconded statements as votes instead of indications that the discussion has ended on a conclusion, as it is done with the Policy, where this method

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: The 15th Edition was published in 2003. Since then, my personal impression is that opposition to generic he has hardened considerably and opposition to singular they has weakened somewhat. Using he as a generic pronoun for a person of

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Russ Allbery wrote: The 15th Edition was published in 2003. Since then, my personal impression is that opposition to generic he has hardened considerably and opposition to singular they has weakened somewhat. Using he as a

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:46:10AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : Added a sentence in README-contrib. Thank you very much. By the way, while browsing the PTS for the link to the Subversion repository to read the sentence, I noticed that the Vcs-Browser URL is broken with the current Alioth

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's not needed, which is worse than the original problem it aims to fix), and also catches a few

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 09:00:53PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : On Sat, 23 Jun 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's not needed, which is worse

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-25 Thread Russ Allbery
To summarize briefly up-front, I also concur that singular they is the best solution to the gendered pronoun problem available to us right now and agree with the patch provided. Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Anyway, my point was that the URLs pointed by Steve and Cyril clearly

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On 24/06/12 01:52, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Looks good to my froggy eyes. Seconded. Also seconded. (I'm a native en_GB speaker, for what it's worth.) Index: developer-duties.dbk === --- developer-duties.dbk (revision 9223)

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Per Andersson
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.7 Severity: normal Tags: patch Dear Maintainer, To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers reference gender neutral. [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 See attached patch for a proposed update on the subject.

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:10:51AM +0200, Per Andersson a écrit : To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers reference gender neutral. [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 Dear Per, I think that our technical documents should be easy to read for

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org (24/06/2012): I think that our technical documents should be easy to read for non-native speakers, and the modification that you propose mixes singular and plural forms in a way that, as far as I know, is not taught to students who learn the English language.

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
Per, thanks for bringing up this issue. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 08:13:04AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: To honour the recent vote on diversity [0] please make the developers reference gender neutral. [0] http://www.debian.org/vote/2012/vote_002 I think that our technical documents should

Bug#678712: developers-reference: Please make developers reference gender neutral

2012-06-23 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org (23/06/2012): Attached is a corrected patch, which fixes the verb agreement issue above and makes a few other tweaks (e.g., not introducing passive tense where it's not needed, which is worse than the original problem it aims to fix), and also catches a few