Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [140803 04:00]: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 07:56:41PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in package dependencies for main FD I vote: B A FD. (Rationale:

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes (Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes): As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 02 Aug 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-03 Thread Keith Packard
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 07:56:41PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-02 Thread Steve Langasek
As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in package dependencies for main FD Whereas:

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: Call for Votes

2014-08-02 Thread Bdale Garbee
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: As previously agreed in the IRC meeting, I call for votes on this question with the following ballot options: A non-free packages as non-default alternatives should not be prohibited in main B non-free packages should always be prohibited in

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: counterargument

2014-07-31 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: In particular, I think Steve's example is one where we should certainly not compromise our principles just because some proprietary software distributors are being uncooperative. Our political opponents, with whom we are making a practical compromise, are giving those of us who want

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: counterargument

2014-07-31 Thread Sam Hartman
Ian == Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Ian And from a practical point of view, I would prefer to make a Ian choice that significantly eases collaboration with the GNU Ian Project to one that slightly eases collaboration with Ian proprietary software vendors.

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: counterargument

2014-06-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes (Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: counterargument): Sorry for the delays in writing this up. ... I believe the *spirit* of the policy requirement is twofold: I won't repeat myself too much, but as I have said I think there is a third

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main: counterargument

2014-04-24 Thread Steve Langasek
Sorry for the delays in writing this up. Of the two options presented at http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debian-ctte.git;a=blob;f=681419_free_non_free_dependencies/cjwatson_draft.txt;h=f07b7d1c25adeb69d113640b1a5a900923cc0621;hb=HEAD, I am unequivocally in favor of option A and

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-20 Thread Don Armstrong
forward 681419 http://git.donarmstrong.com/?p=debian-ctte.git;a=blob;f=681419_free_non_free_dependencies/681419_free_non_free_dependencies.org thanks I've been going through and doing summaries for the current status of the CTTE bugs; this is my understanding of where we are for 681419: * Issue

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes (Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main): Well, if we want to go this route, we could require use of a virtual package in all cases like this. Then foo and foo-nonfree would both Provide: foo (and probably Conflicts: foo), and those who want

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Do we know what proportion of the existing references out of main into non-free/contrib could be done this way ? I'm not sure; we'd have to check. However, it seems like it should handle all of them except any that would need a versioned

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes (Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main): Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Would we also want to do something to avoid the package managers complaining about nonexistent virtual packages ? I guess they are already happy

Bug#681419: Alternative dependencies on non-free packages in main

2012-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal As a Debian Policy delegate, I'm delegating to the Technical Committee the resolution of bugs #587279 and #616462. The current Policy wording is: In addition, the packages in main * must not require or recommend a package outside of main for