Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Guilherme de Siqueira Pastore
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:13:25PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: > > OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated > > module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. > > This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 13, 2013 15:31, Walter Landry wrote: > "Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: >>> OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated >>> module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. >> >> This seems like a paper exercise which I

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Walter Landry
"Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: >> OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated >> module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. > > This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth our efforts. > > I seems extremely unli

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 13, 2013 13:01, Ondrej Sury wrote: > OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated > module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. This seems like a paper exercise which I doubt is worth our efforts. I seems extremely unlikely that the author of the software c

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
OK, it's very much annoying (since the tarball is huge and the updated module won't hit PHP 5.5), but I will comply. O. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source f

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source files > per se, it's just not permitted to use the "software" for Evil. Right. The non-free part of the archive is for such software. Debian main consists only of free software (

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
But my point is that it's not illegal to distribute those source files per se, it's just not permitted to use the "software" for Evil. And since we will not be using those source files, it seems to be ok to distribute them as part of upstream tarball. But IANAL... Ondrej On Mon, May 13, 2013 at

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > Would it be OK to distribute those source files ("no-evil") and not > use them to compile the extension? Source packages are part of main too and thus should not contain non-free stuff. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To U

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2013-05-13 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hey, just to clarify. Would it be OK to distribute those source files ("no-evil") and not use them to compile the extension? Remi from Fedora has prepared patch on top of json-c, which will replace this extension, so I will patch those files away. I just want to avoid the dfsg-repacking if possi

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-19 Thread Jan Wagner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ondřej, On 11/16/2012 10:12 AM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > please, keep the trolling out of this list. Your comment was > neither constructive nor helpful. maybe I was reading to much threads of communication between Stefan Esser and php-internals, sorr

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-16 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 19:32 +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: > I think the best course of action is to contact debian-release team > and ask for an exception (e.g. in Cc:). > > Unless we get upstream to change the license (which is unlikely), it's > too late in release cycle for any radical change (like

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
Jan, please, keep the trolling out of this list. Your comment was neither constructive nor helpful. Ondřej Surý On 16. 11. 2012, at 9:45, Jan Wagner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/15/2012 07:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: >> They seem to think it's a self-mad

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-16 Thread Jan Wagner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/2012 07:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > They seem to think it's a self-made, Debian-only problem. Isn't it a common attitude of this upstream team to get other people responsible for issues? Just my 2 cents, Jan. - -- Never write mail to , yo

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
I think the best course of action is to contact debian-release team and ask for an exception (e.g. in Cc:). Unless we get upstream to change the license (which is unlikely), it's too late in release cycle for any radical change (like stripping the json out completely). On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:0

Bug#692613: [php-maint] Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-15 Thread Lior Kaplan
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Since Fedora doesn't consider the json license as "good" [1], it seems > we are not the only ones having this problem. > > Have you checked what other distros are doing about that, especially > Fedora? > Fedora says it's bad, but they sti

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-15 Thread Michael Biebl
On 15.11.2012 18:51, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Since Fedora doesn't consider the json license as "good" [1], it seems > we are not the only ones having this problem. > > Have you checked what other distros are doing about that, especially Fedora? > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensin

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for, Good, not Evil")

2012-11-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Since Fedora doesn't consider the json license as "good" [1], it seems we are not the only ones having this problem. Have you checked what other distros are doing about that, especially Fedora? [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main?rd=Licensing -- Why is it that all of the instrume

Bug#692613: php5: non-free files in upstream tarball ("The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil")

2012-11-07 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Package: src:php5 Version: 5.4.4-7 Severity: serious The upstream tarball for php5 contains files under the non-free JSON license: % rgrep 'The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.' . ./README.REDIST.BINS:The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil. ./ext/json/utf8_to_utf16.c:The Software