Bug#703092: Info received (Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg)

2013-10-20 Thread Norbert Preining
On So, 20 Okt 2013, Brad Barnett wrote: > I view this bug as very high priority. I see more than a decade of > documentation out there, and of user experience familiar with a process. > > A process that changed for code correctness, and for absolutely no other > reason. > > A process than in cha

Bug#703092: Info received (Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg)

2013-10-20 Thread Brad Barnett
I view this bug as very high priority. I see more than a decade of documentation out there, and of user experience familiar with a process. A process that changed for code correctness, and for absolutely no other reason. A process than in changing, broke the existing process. And when the proc

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-05-04 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 11:28:25 -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Guillem Jover wrote: > > ... I'm attaching a small tentative patch, on the best place I could > > find, just in case. > > I think it belongs in section "issues.dbk": > > Sometimes, changes introduced in a new release have side-e

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-05-04 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Guillem Jover wrote: > ... I'm attaching a small tentative patch, on the best place I could > find, just in case. I think it belongs in section "issues.dbk": Sometimes, changes introduced in a new release have side-effects we cannot reasonably avoid, [...] Ideally it should be s

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-05-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Control: clone -1 release-notes Control: severity -1 wishlist Hi! The bug against dpkg, is about a behavior change that many sysadmins might be surprised to find, so to avoid that it might make sense to document in as many places as possible. Hmm, but I guess it might be too late for this now, a

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-22 Thread Agustin Martin
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 07:30:48PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > What I'm planning to do to try to improve the situation is: > > * Document the change in the man page in master targetting 1.17.x > (perhaps 1.16.x too). > * Probably add a single warning at the end of the --set-selections

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-21 Thread Brad Barnett
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:30:48 +0200 Guillem Jover wrote: > What I'm planning to do to try to improve the situation is: > > * Document the change in the man page in master targetting 1.17.x > (perhaps 1.16.x too). > * Probably add a single warning at the end of the --set-selections >

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, [ I've trimmed out all the vitriol... ] On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 11:44:46 -0400, Brad Barnett wrote: > I might add, that I attempted to use Guillem's suggestion in that email. Just to make sure, only one of those is needed, not all combined. > I get borked at the whole: > > apt-cache dumpav

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-21 Thread Brad Barnett
I might add, that I attempted to use Guillem's suggestion in that email. I get borked at the whole: apt-cache dumpavail && dpkg --update-avail / --merge-avail How on earth is that even supposed to work? Doesn't seem to function here... On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:41:35 -0400 Brad Barnett wrot

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-21 Thread Brad Barnett
Uh, yeah... great. Ok, so we have a regression that is "OK", because it is based on whether a behaviour is technically correct. I've seen this bug for months and months, but thought it was a well known bug that just wasn't resolved. In fact, I didn't even look for bug reports. I didn't even lo

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi > Guillem's reply in > https://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2012/03/msg00067.html I agree that there is a reasoning behind it, but if this feature as documented far and wide is removed, please: * add a warning to the NEWS * fix the man page! And mention ways to achieve the same Thanks Norbe

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The impact was perfectly known. I was also concerned by the change but > Guillem did not want to change his mind. > > See https://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2012/03/msg00065.html and > Guillem's reply in > https://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2012/03

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > It might look harmless, but we do *NOT* want to release Debian > > with a dpkg that is broken with respect to all the descriptions > > floating around how to clone a system. > > I agree that this is a problem, but I cannot convince myself it bre

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-04-10 Thread Jonathan Nieder
severity 703092 important quit Hi, Norbert Preining wrote: > [Subject: setting this to critical] Please keep in mind that these appear as emails in a crowded inbox, where a subject line can provide valuable context. > It might look harmless, but we do *NOT* want to release Debian > with a dpkg

Bug#703092: dpkg --set-selections ignores available packages never installed or removed by dpkg

2013-03-15 Thread Agustin Martin
Package: dpkg Version: 1.16.9 Severity: normal Dear Maintainers, I recently noticed that the workflow to install in a basic box the list of extra packages present in other more complete box seems to no longer work full-box# dpkg --get-selections > desired-selections.txt basic-box# dpkg --get-se