Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-29 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Dimitri, On 29.07.2014 03:12, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: I don't have an opinion about ffmpeg vs libav, apart from how hard the soname transitions are, especially in ubuntu where we somehow ended up with ex-multimedia packages around that either never were in debian, or have been long

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-29 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't have an opinion about ffmpeg vs libav, apart from how hard the soname transitions are, especially in ubuntu where we somehow ended up with ex-multimedia packages around that either never were

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 03:39:29 +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Reinhard, On 28.07.2014 02:05, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: * Does it make sense for me to switch my package? The rule of thumb

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
Ciao, On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org wrote: The release team is likely to let the people involved in multimedia foo fight it out among themselves and pick a winner. We're not going to ship both and hand that mess over to the security team. Personally I

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 28, Alessio Treglia ales...@debian.org wrote: Personally I don't feel like dropping libav in favor of ffmpeg now at this stage. It's too late for Jessie. Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. Personally I feel

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Julien, On 28.07.2014 10:44, Julien Cristau wrote: It remains to be seen, what the release team prefers: frustrated users and developers or both forks in jessie. The release team is likely to let the people involved in multimedia foo fight it out among themselves and pick a winner. I am

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) umlae...@debian.org wrote: Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. at least in theory. Plus I would definitely appreciate to see some bug stats

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 (resending, to keep debian-devel and the bug-report in the loop) personally i would welcome if both libav and ffmpeg could co-exist within Debian¹. as i see it, libav and ffmpeg have diverged, and as such i would like to have the choice which one

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in debian/testing. In consequence this means that any package that

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 28.07.2014 13:24, Alessio Treglia wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU) umlae...@debian.org wrote: Except that, for a lot of the depending packages, there would be an immediate benefit in the number of bugs fixed. at least in theory. Plus I would

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:05:46PM +0200, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-28 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 28 July 2014 15:05, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28.07.2014 13:52, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Norbert Preining wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-27 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: * Does it make sense for me to switch my package? The rule of thumb is, if your upstream uses FFmpeg for development you probably want to switch to using it, too. In [1], Moritz from the security

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 28, Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover, I am curious why I haven't seen you working on libavcodec bugs in Debian before, and why do you believe you can do a better job with the ffmpeg package currently on NEW? Why should he work on libavcodec when he (along with many

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-27 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi, On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Reinhard Tartler wrote: In [1], Moritz from the security team clearly stated that he is more than uncomfortable with having more than one copy of libavcodec in debian/testing. In consequence this means that any package that builds against the ffmpeg packages currently

Bug#729203: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-07-27 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Reinhard, On 28.07.2014 02:05, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andreas Cadhalpun andreas.cadhal...@googlemail.com wrote: * Does it make sense for me to switch my package? The rule of thumb is, if your upstream uses FFmpeg for development you probably want