Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-10-01 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Hi, systemd-cron has been fixed _today_ in unstable. Can you please let apticron depends now on cron-daemon ? You can also depends on cron | cron-daemon to specify that you prefer the real cron if there were previously no cron-daemon installed. I realize that depending on cron-daemon isn't a

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-04 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Since it's systemd-cron's fault: - the clean solution would be to depend on cron-daemon with a note (changelog, Breaks:, whatever) that systemd-cron needs to be fixed I have posted a proposal to merge systemd-crontab-generator into systemd-cron to make it POSIX Debian compliant. Both

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-02 Thread Lorenzo
On 09/01/2014 09:42 PM, Gian Piero Carrubba wrote: Hi Lorenzo, sorry I haven't still read the whole thread and all the related bug reports, so I'm not giving an informed advice. Anyway, given I'm the one to blame for the '--cron' option, I would like to explain the reasons for some of the

Bug#752376: Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-01 Thread Lorenzo
On 08/31/2014 03:58 PM, Alexandre Detiste wrote: I'm not a fan of systemd-cron(*); I was going to ask to switch the dependency from cron to cron-daemon, but that wouldn't be feasible because systemd-cron is a __broken__ replacement for cron (until bug 752376 is fixed), so I proposed running

Bug#752376: Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-01 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Then, the file /etc/crontab would then not contains theses standard boilerplate lines anymore 17 ** * * rootcd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6* * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) 47 6* * 7 root

Bug#752376: Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-01 Thread Lorenzo
On 09/01/2014 05:45 PM, Alexandre Detiste wrote: Then, the file /etc/crontab would then not contains theses standard boilerplate lines anymore 17 ** * * rootcd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6* * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-09-01 Thread Gian Piero Carrubba
Hi Lorenzo, sorry I haven't still read the whole thread and all the related bug reports, so I'm not giving an informed advice. Anyway, given I'm the one to blame for the '--cron' option, I would like to explain the reasons for some of the choices. * [Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 04:55:09PM +0200]

Bug#752376: Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-08-31 Thread Alexandre Detiste
I'm not a fan of systemd-cron(*); I was going to ask to switch the dependency from cron to cron-daemon, but that wouldn't be feasible because systemd-cron is a __broken__ replacement for cron (until bug 752376 is fixed), so I proposed running apticron in cron.daily to work around that

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-08-28 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Lorenzo, On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 02:29:20PM +0200, Lorenzo wrote: On 08/27/2014 06:30 AM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for your detailed report, I was not aware of this issue. However, I'm not sure if I understood your proposal. If we include the old cron daily

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-08-27 Thread Lorenzo
On 08/27/2014 06:30 AM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for your detailed report, I was not aware of this issue. However, I'm not sure if I understood your proposal. If we include the old cron daily script we'll end with at least two issues which were fixed by removing it. One

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-08-26 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi Lorenzo, Thanks for your detailed report, I was not aware of this issue. However, I'm not sure if I understood your proposal. If we include the old cron daily script we'll end with at least two issues which were fixed by removing it. One is having two instances of apticron running

Bug#758034: apticron: ok to Depend on cron-daemon rather than cron?

2014-08-13 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
Package: apticron Version: 1.1.56 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, as a fix for bug 752506, bcron-run chose to provide cron-daemon rather than cron, which looks correct to me. Except that the new bcron-run and apticron don't work well together: apt-get upgrade leaves me with the old version,