Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2015-03-29 Thread Niels Thykier
Control: tags -1 pending On 2014-12-15 17:00, Svante Signell wrote: [...] Hi I trimmed the patch, less text now. However, the LILO comment is still there. Do you want me to remove that one too? Hi, I have applied a minor patch to day based on your patch submitted here (See attached).

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 05:00:32PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: +It is also a good idea to install +systemitem role=package sysvinit-core, sysvint and sysvinit-utils Might you mean sysvinit instead of sysvint ? +/systemitem as the first packages when upgrading. -- hendrik --

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 17:01 +, Brian Potkin wrote: On Thu 04 Dec 2014 at 12:02:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: +It is also a good idea to install +systemitem role=package sysvinit-core, sysvint and sysvinit-utils +/systemitem as the first packages when upgrading. What

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 11:46 +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: Hi Svante, Care to update the patch now that the CTTE-decision has been taken? I can apply the patch today. Thanks for your work! Bye, Attached is an updated patch, adding some information about apt-get upgrade and apt-get

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi again Svante, On closer look of the proposed patch, I feel the tone is not right. Text like apt-get dist-upgrade Wheezy to Jessie will get systemd-sysv installed, and sysvinit will be history!! Otherwise you need to install sysvinit-core on next reboot (if your system boots). is not

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 16:46 +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: Hi again Svante, On closer look of the proposed patch, I feel the tone is not right. Text like apt-get dist-upgrade Wheezy to Jessie will get systemd-sysv installed, and sysvinit will be history!! Otherwise you need to

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon 15 Dec 2014 at 13:13:22 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 17:01 +, Brian Potkin wrote: On Thu 04 Dec 2014 at 12:02:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: +It is also a good idea to install +systemitem role=package sysvinit-core, sysvint and sysvinit-utils

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Brian Potkin
On Mon 15 Dec 2014 at 17:00:32 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Hi I trimmed the patch, less text now. However, the LILO comment is still there. Do you want me to remove that one too? A few other things should be considered for removal too. +It is also a good idea to install +systemitem

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-15 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi Svante, Brian: thanks for your comments; I tend to agree. I've just checked; the patch applies: joostvb@nusku:~/svn/release-notes% patch -p0 /tmp/en_issues.dbk.patch patching file en/issues.dbk Hunk #1 succeeded at 206 (offset 28 lines). Hunk #2 succeeded at 224 (offset 28 lines).

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-14 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi Svante, Care to update the patch now that the CTTE-decision has been taken? I can apply the patch today. On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:02:27PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 22:07 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2014-12-03 11:56, Svante Signell wrote: On Tue, 2014-12-02

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-14 Thread Brian Potkin
On Thu 04 Dec 2014 at 12:02:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: +It is also a good idea to install +systemitem role=package sysvinit-core, sysvint and sysvinit-utils +/systemitem as the first packages when upgrading. What is gained by doing this? If pinning is used sysvinit-core is

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-14 Thread Brian Potkin
On Thu 04 Dec 2014 at 12:02:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: +If you have a desktop environment installed, it is also +recommended to install systemitem +role=packagesystemd-shim/systemitem to + /para + itemizedlist + listitem para + assist apt and/or aptitude with the

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 22:07 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2014-12-03 11:56, Svante Signell wrote: On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 23:01 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: [...] Index: en/issues.dbk === --- en/issues.dbk (revision

Bug#771825: [Fwd: Re: Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations]

2014-12-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 23:56 +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:13:38PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Hi Osamu, I will make a modified proposal to the actual document. However there is no installation-guide on this page:

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-04 Thread Baptiste Jammet
Hi, (I don't know if it's still a good idea to keep this bug report in Cc, as installation-guide is handled by -boot@) Dixit Svante Signell, le 04/12/2014 : Thanks for the info. I have now downloaded the installation-guide manual with apt-get source installation-guide-amd64. How to build e.g.

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-03 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 23:01 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 22:16 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2014-12-02 18:17, Svante Signell wrote: Package: release-notes Severity: Important [1] I would be expecting you to modify a file called en/issues.dbk... and I am not

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Niels and Javi said well for release-notes and translation time-line of installation-guide against the freeze. If you are thinking of submitting a patch to installation-guide for the following part, I reminds you few things to get it accepted. 196 caution 197 para 198 Be advised

Bug#771825: [Fwd: Re: Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations]

2014-12-03 Thread Svante Signell
---BeginMessage--- On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 22:02 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, Niels and Javi said well for release-notes and translation time-line of installation-guide against the freeze. If you are thinking of submitting a patch to installation-guide for the following part, I reminds you

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-03 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2014-12-03 11:56, Svante Signell wrote: On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 23:01 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: [...] Hi, Attached is a svn diff for the release-notes. Comments are welcomed. Thanks, find my remarks interleaved in the patch. Regarding the Installation guide for the second hunk, where

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-03 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 17:12 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: I will make a modified proposal to the actual document. However there is no installation-guide on this page: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/ddp/manuals/trunk/ Why should there be? The installation-guide package has Vcs-* headers.

Bug#771825: [Fwd: Re: Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations]

2014-12-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 05:13:38PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Hi Osamu, I will make a modified proposal to the actual document. However there is no installation-guide on this page: https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/ddp/manuals/trunk/ Where is it? The sources for the installation guide

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-02 Thread Svante Signell
Package: release-notes Severity: Important Hello, As promised on debian-devel attached is a first proposal for an update of the release notes. There are two small issues with the patch: - The text is edited without seeing the markup result. How to do that? - The second part about preseeding will

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-02 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2014-12-02 18:17, Svante Signell wrote: Package: release-notes Severity: Important Hello, As promised on debian-devel attached is a first proposal for an update of the release notes. There are two small issues with the patch: - The text is edited without seeing the markup result. How

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-02 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 22:16 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: On 2014-12-02 18:17, Svante Signell wrote: Package: release-notes Severity: Important Hello, As promised on debian-devel attached is a first proposal for an update of the release notes. There are two small issues with the

Bug#771825: release-notes: Update information on non-systemd Jessie upgrades and installations

2014-12-02 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 11:01:16PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: * The second hunk of the patch seems better suited for the installation-guide. The release notes concerns itself with upgrades and does not cover the debian-installer. Somebody was complaining that changing the