On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 07:38:01AM +0200, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Thanks for reminding me that the internet is full of useless people.
if you don't want to get slapped down for rudeness then don't start out
by being obnoxious. you got the response you provoked, no more and no less.
> Good luck getti
Excerpts from Craig Sanders's message of 2016-10-26 15:22:27 +1100:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > > [ using /dev/tcp in bash ]
> >
> > That seems like a gross oversimplification of what works extremely well
> > today. mysqladmin actually understands mysql's prot
Excerpts from Craig Sanders's message of 2016-10-26 15:31:58 +1100:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 04:52:38AM +0200, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > The point of the stable release is security updates with minimal impact.
>
> well, no. that's ONE of its points, not THE point.
>
> Another point is to refrain f
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 04:52:38AM +0200, Clint Byrum wrote:
> The point of the stable release is security updates with minimal impact.
well, no. that's ONE of its points, not THE point.
Another point is to refrain from breaking existing systems - that's at
least as important as security updates
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > [ using /dev/tcp in bash ]
>
> That seems like a gross oversimplification of what works extremely well
> today. mysqladmin actually understands mysql's protocol, and can verify
> that it is up and fully functional. Listening doesn't m
Excerpts from Craig Sanders's message of 2016-10-26 12:10:49 +1100:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 01:09:23PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> > I agree with you, but the release team have made their decision against our
> > wishes. There's no point arguing with us. We know.
>
> since when does the release
Excerpts from Craig Sanders's message of 2016-10-26 12:56:43 +1100:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 06:42:11AM -0700, Lars Tangvald wrote:
>
> > SysV and upstart scripts use mysqladmin (which is in the client) to verify
> > that the server is running. 5.7 has some inbuilt support for systemd, so for
> >
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 06:42:11AM -0700, Lars Tangvald wrote:
> SysV and upstart scripts use mysqladmin (which is in the client) to verify
> that the server is running. 5.7 has some inbuilt support for systemd, so for
> systemd at least it's not needed.
pgrep (or even telnet to port 3306) would
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 01:09:23PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:00:32PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > it still seems very surprising to me that a package called
> > default-MYSQL-client would force the removal of mysql-client* and
> > mysql-server*
>
> I agree this is co
- robie.ba...@ubuntu.com wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 08:01:26PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > it's somewhat surprising that a package called default-mysql-client
> should
> > force the removal of both mysql-client and mysql-server packages.
>
> Please could you explain
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:00:32PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> it still seems very surprising to me that a package called
> default-MYSQL-client would force the removal of mysql-client* and
> mysql-server*
I agree this is confusing. Unfortunately we don't have a common name
that describes both M
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 10:54:56AM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> Hi Craig,
Hi
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 08:01:26PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > it's somewhat surprising that a package called default-mysql-client
> > should force the removal of both mysql-client and mysql-server
> > packages.
>
>
Hi Craig,
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 08:01:26PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> it's somewhat surprising that a package called default-mysql-client should
> force the removal of both mysql-client and mysql-server packages.
Please could you explain your use case? What are you trying to do at a
high lev
Package: default-mysql-client
Version: 1.0.0
it's somewhat surprising that a package called default-mysql-client should
force the removal of both mysql-client and mysql-server packages.
mariadb is NOT a drop-in replacement for mysql.
# apt-get -d -u install default-mysql-client
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