Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-22 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-12-22 21:30 +]: > > > So in short, it's either all or nothing? I.e. if I want *some* programs, > > > which are linked against libpulse0, > > Hmm, are there applications which need pulseaudio to work? I do have > > There are, but probably best not mentioned

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-22 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> > So in short, it's either all or nothing? I.e. if I want *some* programs, > > which are linked against libpulse0, > Hmm, are there applications which need pulseaudio to work? I do have There are, but probably best not mentioned aloud lest Stallman smites us. :) > a system which works fine

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-22 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-12-22 20:30 +]: > > > > I think the only chance to run alsamixer without starting pulse is > > > > to pulseaudio -k and autospawn pulse. > > > Is this not a bug? > > Starting pulseaudio automagic is a feature implemented in pulseaudio;-) > > So in short,

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-22 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> > > I think the only chance to run alsamixer without starting pulse is > > > to pulseaudio -k and autospawn pulse. > > Is this not a bug? > Starting pulseaudio automagic is a feature implemented in pulseaudio;-) So in short, it's either all or nothing? I.e. if I want *some* programs, which are

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-22 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-12-21 21:21 +]: > > I think the only chance to run alsamixer without starting pulse is > > to pulseaudio -k and autospawn pulse. > > Is this not a bug? Starting pulseaudio automagic is a feature implemented in pulseaudio;-) Elimar -- Numeric stability

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-21 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> I think the only chance to run alsamixer without starting pulse is > to pulseaudio -k and autospawn pulse. Is this not a bug? Cheers, Juha

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-19 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-12-18 23:02 +]: > > > I think pulseaudio gets started by libasound.so.2 when it parses > > > alsa.conf.d because pulseaudio has placed the above file there. > > If pulsaudio is installed it runs as a per user session by default. > > I think you might have

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-18 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> > I think pulseaudio gets started by libasound.so.2 when it parses > > alsa.conf.d because pulseaudio has placed the above file there. > If pulsaudion is installed it runs as a per user session by default. I think you might have misunderstood the problem. Disabling pulseaudio's autospawn does

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-12-18 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-11-26 19:09 +]: [...] > I think pulseaudio gets started by libasound.so.2 when it parses alsa.conf.d > because pulseaudio has placed the above file there. If pulsaudion is installed it runs as a per user session by default. To prevent starting pulse just

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-11-26 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> What do you want to tell me here? It seems your pulseaudio > installation is a bit buggy. I can't reproduce. Apart from the bit about /usr/bin/pulseaudio being a script which simply records that pulseaudio has been started and then execs /usr/bin/ pulseaudio.real, pulseaudio and alsamixer are

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-11-23 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Control: tags -1 unreproducible * Juha Jäykkä [2016-11-20 18:15 +]: > > alsamixer doesn't fire up any puls daemon. Please check whether > > puls is running before starting alsamixer. > > It should not, but it certainly does: > > juhaj@meissa 18:07:16 ~> ps -flyu juhaj|grep

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-11-20 Thread Juha Jäykkä
> alsamixer doesn't fire up any puls daemon. Please check whether > puls is running before starting alsamixer. It should not, but it certainly does: juhaj@meissa 18:07:16 ~> ps -flyu juhaj|grep pulseau S juhaj 9740 9724 0 99 19 2204 3488 - 18:07 pts/400:00:00 grep pulseau

Bug#845090: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-11-20 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Juha Jäykkä [2016-11-20 10:12 +]: > Package: alsa-utils > Version: 1.0.28-1 > Severity: normal > File: /usr/bin/alsamixer > > Dear Maintainer, > > Running "alsamixer -c0" in order to adjust the ALSA mixer levels causes > pulseaudio daemon to start. This is not just wrong

Bug#845090: /usr/bin/alsamixer: alsamixer -c0 starts pulseaudio

2016-11-20 Thread Juha Jäykkä
Package: alsa-utils Version: 1.0.28-1 Severity: normal File: /usr/bin/alsamixer Dear Maintainer, Running "alsamixer -c0" in order to adjust the ALSA mixer levels causes pulseaudio daemon to start. This is not just wrong and unexpected, but also causes unwanted side-effects in other programs,