Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
X-Debbugs-CC: en...@scummvm.org El dg 11 de 03 de 2018 a les 04:13 +0800, James 'Ender' Brown va escriure: > this issue has been discussed in detail now. Yet you do not address the problem. Let me write it in another way. Were the copyright holders of Flight of the Amazon Queen, Lure of the

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread James 'Ender' Brown
As you can see, James, my points have been repeated. Please confirm that game authors were not deceived by section 3 of the license. ... really? This is getting a /bit/ silly now. Between Ansgar, myself. Simon and others I probably missed, this issue has been discussed in detail now. There

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
X-Debbugs-CC: en...@scummvm.org El ds 10 de 03 de 2018 a les 19:54 +0100, Fabian Greffrath va escriure: > Please don't do that for other people's addresses. X-Debbugs-CC is meant for this purpose. If James says he is receiving the messages through other paths, I will stop including his address.

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am Samstag, den 10.03.2018, 19:25 +0100 schrieb Javier Serrano Polo: > X-Debbugs-CC: en...@scummvm.org Please don't do that for other people's addresses. > As you can see, James, my points have been repeated. Please confirm > that game authors were not deceived by section 3 of the license.

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
X-Debbugs-CC: en...@scummvm.org El ds 10 de 03 de 2018 a les 18:07 +, Simon McVittie va escriure: > which is something that the copyright holders specifically didn't want! > Also, intent matters in interpreting licensing, and if this ever > went to court, it seems fairly plausible that a

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:00:27 +0100, Javier Serrano Polo wrote: > El ds 10 de 03 de 2018 a les 05:38 +0800, James 'Ender' Brown va > escriure: > > I'm not really sure what outcome you are looking for here... I think this is an important question to ask yourself before proceeding. The

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
Control: tags -1 - wontfix X-Debbugs-CC: en...@scummvm.org El dg 11 de 03 de 2018 a les 00:19 +0800, James 'Ender' Brown va escriure: > Reading the other BTS bug you linked, my understanding of the DFSG (and the > commonly accepted interpretation) > is the same as Ansgar supplied there: I

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread James 'Ender' Brown
Hi Javier, Thanks for the reply! Reading the other BTS bug you linked, my understanding of the DFSG (and the commonly accepted interpretation) is the same as Ansgar supplied there: * Clause #1 covers re-distribution - must be redistributable freely as part of a collection of software. *

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-10 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
El ds 10 de 03 de 2018 a les 05:38 +0800, James 'Ender' Brown va escriure: > I'm not really sure what outcome you are looking for here... DFSG #6 warrants use in any field of endeavor. The outcome is either software can be sold, both modified and unmodified, or it is non-free. > Yes. It was

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-09 Thread James 'Ender' Brown
Hi Javier, Original license author chiming in here again, since this seems to be a biennial thing :/ This is hopefully the last time I'll write on this matter, by this point pretty much every detail I can remember now documented across half-a-dozen reports in BTS. Mostly across this one and

Bug#854679: Clarify license for Beneath a Steel Sky

2018-03-09 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
Dear Revolution staff, About the license for Beneath a Steel Sky, section 3 states: You may not charge a fee for the game itself. But section 2 says: and may distribute it in aggregate as part of a larger & possibly commercial software distribution Could you confirm