On 19/06/19 22:19, Simon McVittie wrote:
[...]
I would very much appreciate input from the rest of the team, particularly:
- Laurent: I know you've had strong opinions about using Wayland for GNOME.
Do you feel strongly that Debian should be defaulting to Wayland? Are
there any reasons
Preserving the rather large CC list for now…
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 06:05:22AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
I feel very uncomfortable with a change as big as this revert happening
this late in the release cycle.
How big is big? The MR I raised resurrects a patch that changes one line
of code,
Am 20.06.19 um 11:25 schrieb Jonathan Carter:
> I just have a small proposal:
>
> Selecting "Gnome on Xorg" is really easy from GDM for anyone who has
> trouble on Wayland. It might be worth while adding that to the release
> notes so that users who are not quite ready for Wayland yet know that
>
I'm writing with my DPL hat on in the role of a facilitator/mediator.
I have no actual power in this situation and it is entirely reasonable
to ignore me.
I feel very uncomfortable with a change as big as this revert happening
this late in the release cycle.
I think that my reading of how the
Hi everyone
Am 20.06.19 um 11:12 schrieb Iain Lane:
>> I've left some comments on
>> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gdm/merge_requests/8 regarding the
>> technical side of the proposed change.
> Someone could probably look in Ubuntu's gdm3 package to see what we're
> doing. We provide
Hi Simon, others,
Thanks to those involved so far in shepherding this side of the issue
along. And also for poking me (repeatedly!) to reply.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 09:19:49PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 17:33:55 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > So far as I am aware
Michael Biebl writes:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:16:58 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> I'm just a GNOME user, but from gdm3's changelog the default was
>> switched to Wayland in July 2017 (or August 2017 for unstable). I
>> myself only noticed the switch after reading it happened somewhere on
>>
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 22:16:58 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Jonathan Dowland writes:
> > So far as I am aware there is still radio silence from active GNOME
> > packaging team members regarding this issue. No comment yet on the
> > patch I adapted, positive or negative; this bug (#927667)
Hey there,
Le 19/06/2019 à 22:19, Simon McVittie a écrit :
- Ubuntu GNOME team: which recent Ubuntu versions, if any, are using
Wayland for their GNOME-based desktop?
We don't have any supported Ubuntu version using Wayland by default, our
motivations for sticking to Xorg were mostly
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 17:33:55 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> So far as I am aware there is still radio silence from active GNOME
> packaging team members regarding this issue. No comment yet on the
> patch I adapted, positive or negative; this bug (#927667) remains
> at an RC severity.
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> So far as I am aware there is still radio silence from active GNOME
> packaging team members regarding this issue. No comment yet on the
> patch I adapted, positive or negative; this bug (#927667) remains
> at an RC severity.
>
> I've not yet read all the thread that
Hi Andrew
So far as I am aware there is still radio silence from active GNOME
packaging team members regarding this issue. No comment yet on the
patch I adapted, positive or negative; this bug (#927667) remains
at an RC severity.
I've not yet read all the thread that Samuel linked to[1] but it
Hi,
Is there going to be an ACK or NACK decision on this before the buster
release?
As an outsider I understand the advantages of Wayland, but I am
concerned about the implications of Wayland as default at this point to
a "stable" release.
Having the whole session and apps lost if the shell
Hello,
Just so that the info is recorded here as well: as discussed on
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2019/02/msg4.html
Wayland does not provide yet the support that the Orca screen reader
needs to provide proper support for blind people (keyboard shortcuts for
GUI review,
reassign 927667 gdm3
tags 927667 +patch
thanks
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:26:07AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Two ways of resolving this are: Either the default GNOME3 session in Debian
switched back to Xorg, or the default desktop session is switched away from
GNOME; but I would much prefer
Hi Michael,
Thank you for sharing your take.
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 11:21:22AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Then there is the case, that I sometimes need to use software like
teamviewer (I know, bad proprietary software), which is not Wayland
ready. I need something cross-plattform though,
Hi Jonathan,
besides the excellent summary from Simon, I can mainly provide some
personal feedback. Every now and then, I try the GNOME/Wayland session,
but so far I've always switched back to GNOME/Xorg.
My biggest gripe is
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032
I.e. mouse animation
severity 927667 serious
thanks
[ I wrote the following reply to smcv's last mail to this bug, but only
sent it to -desktop:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-desktop/2019/05/msg0.html ]
Thanks to Simon for filing this bug in the first place and for engaging
in discussion about the issue.
My
Package: gnome
Version: 1:3.30+1
Severity: important
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> I was surprised to learn — by way of synaptic being autoremoved — that
> the
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