Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-31 Thread Arnaud Quette
Hi fellows, 2006/7/29, Daniel Richard G. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2006 Jul 28 16:12:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: ... Anyway, the disagreement comes down to this: Me: Keep the system minimally running, so that it powers off when the UPS cuts the power, so that it will turn on

Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Daniel Richard G. wrote: On Fri, 2006 Jul 28 16:12:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: There is no tradeoff without the hack, and the hack is only needed in hardware unsuitable for UPS management. Thus, it must be optional. It is dangerous to data and the

Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-31 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Mon, 2006 Jul 31 13:47:21 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Define (un)suitable for UPS management. Does this definition include most people's desktop systems? Suitable for UPS management: Load: Powers up when AC returns Can be informed

Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Fri, 2006 Jul 28 14:46:47 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: 1. The UPS may take more than 15 minutes to shutdown the load. You cannot assume things like this, and you will cause data loss if you get it wrong: the power-off could come with the system fully online. The time period

Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Daniel Richard G. wrote: The time period should be configurable; I just suggested 15 minutes as a default. You could set a higher value, but the tradeoff is that if the power returns, the system is unavailable for that time period. There is no tradeoff without the hack,

Bug#358696: This is dangerous, please make it default to disabled

2006-07-28 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Fri, 2006 Jul 28 16:12:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: There is no tradeoff without the hack, and the hack is only needed in hardware unsuitable for UPS management. Thus, it must be optional. It is dangerous to data and the hardware, so it should not be the default. Define