On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 02:57:06PM +0000, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
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> #242866: linux-2.6: [legal] the current kernel tarball doesn't respect the GR 
> 2006-007
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> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:44:56 +0200
> From: maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: drivers containing firmware blobs
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Version: 2.6.24-1
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> The Debian Kernel Team is guilty of uploading a disjointed kernel. For the
> record Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> coded the infrastructure for the
> stripping and the stripping itself. The FTP masters threatened to block
> any future Linux uploads or alternatively would launch an NMU (non
> maintainer upload) stripping the affected drivers.

So, the firmware have been removed and the kernel is now conformant to
the decision of the developpers, expressed in the GR ? Or conformant to
the stretched interpretation the Release Managers held back then in
order to not lose face ? 

> I very strongly disagreed with that decision, but the Debian Developer
> made their position clear in the General Resolution 2006-007, which is

No, the Debian Developers where mislead and the vote was manipulated, so
that it doesn't represent the true opinion of the DDs. Most of them
voted because they where sick of the flamewars, and didn't really look
at the content of the GR.

> binding for us. In the long run it might be a win for Free Software -
> history will tell. In the short term this is an annoyance for existing
> hardware driver support.
> 
> As expected none of the vocal minority, aka Mr. Nerode and Mr. Doolittle,

Don't forget Manoj, who threatened to fork the kernel package if we
didn't remove the non-free firmware.

> demanding DFSG freeness helped to work out this transition nor to cleanup
> the created mess. The stripping presents an additional maintenance burden.
> But I'm sick of the arguments. Rather then fighting I'd like to see people
> working together to make things work, both on the licensing side
> (BSD firmware) and on the code side (firmware_request()), neither is easy.

I proposed to help do this myself, and had a hard time pushing a
conciliatory position which would satisfy everyone, but with the result
that we know. Too sad. Hopefully you can someday forget the past, and we
can again work together on this and other debian stuff.

> I'm thus closing the bug reports regarding firmware blobs and pointing the
> reporters to the following wiki page in order to finaly help a bit
> -> http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing
> Possible DFSG violations in current and future linux-2.6 uploads should be
> filed seperately.

Why was it not closed in the kernel upload which resolved all issues
mentioned in that GR ? I disagree about this bug being closed if the
issue has not been fixed.

Sadly,

Sven Luther



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