On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 00:15, Philip Charles wrote:
> On 29 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have other candidates for a move, or reasons not to move any
> > of the packages mentioned above?
> >
> Good luck. Don't $#@! tasks.
Hm, looks like I might have done something a little nau
Hi again,
I got no answer to my suggestions about improving 1st debian CD and desktop
task :(
Maybe debian-cd maintainer can say if 1st CD would include more packages for
beginners: hardware autodetection packages, user-friendly package managers,
user-friendly configuration tools, etc. and wo
One comment:
In pre6-pre7-package.diff.txt I see:
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang/erlang_8.0-4_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang-slang/erlang-slang_1.0-3_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/o/openh323/libopenh323-dbg_1.7.4-6_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/p/python-popy/python1.5-popy
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
> One comment:
>
> In pre6-pre7-package.diff.txt I see:
>
> -Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang/erlang_8.0-4_i386.deb
> -Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang-slang/erlang-slang_1.0-3_i386.deb
> -Non-US:pool/non-US/main/o/openh323/libopenh323-dbg_1.7.4-
On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > If we accept that a first "non-US" CD does not necessarily have to
> > contain the whole of non-US, we could change the way of generating
> > the CDs from "Including most of non-US in CD#1, excluding big p
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:53:17PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote:
> Richard Atterer wrote:
> >For other files (packages on the CD that become outdated and
> >disappear from the main mirror), one possibility is to set up an
> >md5sum-based fallback directory; for a "MD5Sum=http://foo/"; entry
> >in
Mantas K. wrote:
> I got no answer to my suggestions about improving 1st debian CD and desktop
> task :(
Here is one (not "official", since I am not the debian-cd maintainer).
The current CDs are made basically using the data produced by the
popularity-contest package. Debian is for everybody, n
Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
> xdm, xfs & xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm & kdm
> are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome-terminal is in,
> we could actually live without those, but
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> > The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
> > xdm, xfs & xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm & kdm
> > are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome-termin
Hello,
this is my first attempt at a note to mail to all CD mirror admins.
Doubtlessly it is inaccurate in some places - please correct any
mistakes. Is there any important issue which I missed, and which the
mirror maintainers should know about?
Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be plac
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>
> > Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> > > The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
> > > xdm, xfs & xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm & kdm
> > > are on th
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:50, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > If we accept that a first "non-US" CD does not necessarily have to
> > > contain the whole of non-US, we could change the way of generating
> > > t
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Richard Atterer wrote:
> Another related question: At the moment, jigdo-mirror does not allow
> you to filter which images it should create and which not. People
> using it will only be able to mirror all 88 images, there's no way to
> prevent it from creating e.g. binary-3 t
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 13:16, Richard Atterer wrote:
> Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be placed? I think it would
> be wise *not* to use cdimage/jigdo-area for that, because
does this work if you point it at:
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/current/
?
If so, there's no probl
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Philip Charles wrote:
> > This package depends on xspecs so it's certainly not for "normal users".
>
> We are operating with two sets of constraints.
>
> The task system. x-window-system is part of task basic-desktop, so to
> remove it means that this task is incomplete and
Perhaps this is a simple typo/mistake and it should be x-window-system-core,
not x-window-system, the single package in the basic-desktop task?
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On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 12:30, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Philip Hands wrote:
> > The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
> > xdm, xfs & xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm & kdm
> > are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone know of any methods where I could customize a
debian cd set with just the packages I want and scaled down so it would
fit on a mini and/or business card/credit card cd. To give you some
idea the size requirments
Full cd = 650 megs
Mini cd = 180 megs
biz card cd =
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Hmm, considering that woody has already 8 binary CDs (i.e. 7 "US" CDs
> > and 1 "non-US" one) a 2nd NONUS CD would not be such a big change.
> Steve noticed that several of the packages that claim to be non-US are
> actually now in
On Thu 30 May, Richard Atterer wrote:
> Another related question: At the moment, jigdo-mirror does not allow
> you to filter which images it should create and which not.
> Should I modify it to allow such filtering?
yes. It's pretty close to being essential I think.
> Because we expect that mo
Hi,
I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still could
not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as bootable disk
with images. Please let me know where I can find such information.
Thanks,
Wu
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On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2001, Philip Charles wrote:
>
> > The release. We were told in no uncertain terms that we were not to mess
> > with task system.
> More than being a part of, x-window-system is the *only* package in
> the basic-desktop task.
>
> I think
Santiago Vila wrote:
> More than being a part of, x-window-system is the *only* package in
> the basic-desktop task.
>
> I think there is something fundamentally wrong in this task if it's
> called "basic" and, at the same time, it includes xspecs.
>
> There is also a `desktop' task containing x
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wu, Ying-Wah CECOM RDEC I2WD wrote:
> I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
> package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still could
> not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as bootable disk
> with images. Please le
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:20:21AM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone know of any methods where I could customize a
> debian cd set with just the packages I want and scaled down so it would
> fit on a mini and/or business card/credit card cd. To give you some
> idea the size requ
Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
build a 50-70 meg image.
-stephen
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Steve Haslam wrote:
SH> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:20:21AM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
SH> > I was wond
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:19:31PM +0100, Stephen Mulcahy wrote:
> Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
> cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
> build a 50-70 meg image.
It's what I'm using, but yes it's overkill. Especially since
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
> Santiago Vila wrote:
> > I would like to hear some comments about this from whoever created
> > this weird "basic-desktop" task.
>
> Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
>
> * Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-system (so it gets a
>
Hello,
this is my first message to this list after lurking since long. I have
a partial mirror for woody/binary-i386 based on debmirror and the
actual CVS version of debian-cd. Every so often I build inofficial
woody CDs from my local mirror which I put onto CD-RWs. This works
great except for tw
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:52:47PM -0400, Wu, Ying-Wah CECOM RDEC I2WD wrote:
> I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
> package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still
> could not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as
> bootable disk with
OK, I'll implement the filtering.
The part about not providing rsyncable CDs 3-7 for non-i386 was the
last word from Phil H. about this, but that was before the decision to
move almost everything to raff. So... will we be offering rsync access
to all 88 images? In that case, a warning to the mirr
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Steve Haslam wrote:
SH> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:19:31PM +0100, Stephen Mulcahy wrote:
SH> > Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
SH> > cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
SH> > build a 50-70 meg image.
SH>
>>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Philip> Looking at the sizes of the packages on CD#1_NONUS from pre6
Philip> I see that stating with the largest we have (after getting
Philip> rid of the kernel images):
Philip> 128882447 emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb
Philip> 105322127 emac
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:24:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Santiago Vila wrote:
> > I would like to hear some comments about this from whoever created
> > this weird "basic-desktop" task.
>
> Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
>
> * Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-s
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:24:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
> >
> > * Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-system (so it gets a
> > WM and xterm and so on), while the desktop task uses
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:57:22PM +, Achim L?bbert wrote:
>
>this is my first message to this list after lurking since long. I have
>a partial mirror for woody/binary-i386 based on debmirror and the
>actual CVS version of debian-cd. Every so often I build inofficial
>woody CDs from my local m
Hello,
I'm a fairly experienced Debian i386 user who just got himself an Apple
iBook. I know next to zilch about the Mac, and have had a number of false
starts at installing Debian on the thing.
I have some feedback for The Powers That Be about my installation
experience, and I'm also keeping s
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
> What's wrong with basic-desktop being x-window-system-core plus a WM
> plus xterm? As I said, x-window-system contains things which are far
> away from being "basic". If we force it to be on CD #1, lots of very
> popular packages will end up being in CD
The jigdo image at
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/source/wwody-src-6.jigdo
has the following section
[Image]
Filename=debian-30p8-source-6.iso
Template=http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/src/woody-sr
c-6.template ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 p8 "Woody" -
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Philip Charles wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
>
> > What's wrong with basic-desktop being x-window-system-core plus a WM
> > plus xterm? As I said, x-window-system contains things which are far
> > away from being "basic". If we force it to be on CD #1, lo
Philip Charles wrote:
>Good luck, let us know how you get on. We need to speed up the transfer
>of the iso's from Dunedin to Budapest.
>
If you have a local debian tree, that should be no problem at all. It
works already when you have just the files that are mirrored in the same
relative posit
Richard Atterer wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:53:17PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote:
>
> In case the size is really a problem, note that you can always refine
> the script used to generate the "debian-superseded" contents. Attila
> just puts *all* outdated files there (because his CDs actu
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
> If we can't fix usability bugs during the freeze, we might better
> unfreeze woody for a while, fix the basic-desktop task, and freeze
> woody again...
Let's get woody out of the door fast. Tomorrow preferably, if not, the
day after. We can reccommen
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Patrick Strasser wrote:
Cut
> To sum up, first we need a list of files that can be found on mirrors
> with their corresponding location, what I'm trying to do ATM. And second
> the files itself for the checksums, which we get from the mounted image.
> I now work with a local
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 16:18, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I've already replied to Phil's bug about this, but this doesn't actually
> work out: erlang's in non-US in testing and unstable, and won't be
> moving for woody. There's a bunch of stuff for which new versions have
> been uploaded to main for un
On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 13:16, Richard Atterer wrote:
>
> > Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be placed? I think it would
> > be wise *not* to use cdimage/jigdo-area for that, because
>
> does this work if you point it at:
>
> http://cdimage.debian.or
On Fri, 31 May 2002 09:08:30 +1000
"Glenn McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The jigdo image at
> http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/source/wwody-src-6.jigdo
>
Same problem in 3.0-pre9
Glenn
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