Re: Do the file timestamps in ISOs matter ?

2016-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > All three possible behaviors lead to reproducibility if the > > input trees of the ISO production runs are sufficiently > > similar. Sam Hartman wrote: > So, are you using a definition of reproducible different than the > resulting iso will have the same SHA-1 hash? I mean ident

Re: Do the file timestamps in ISOs matter ?

2016-09-02 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Thomas" == Thomas Schmitt writes: Thomas> Hi, Thomas> Chris Lamb wrote: >> I just don't see this usecase of being "partly" reproducible >> being remotely useful to anyone, ever. I'm probably >> misunderstanding something, however. Thomas> All three possible behavio

Re: Do the file timestamps in ISOs matter ?

2016-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Chris Lamb wrote: > I just don't see this usecase of being "partly" reproducible being remotely > useful to anyone, ever. I'm probably misunderstanding something, however. All three possible behaviors lead to reproducibility if the input trees of the ISO production runs are sufficiently simil

Re: Do the file timestamps in ISOs matter ?

2016-09-02 Thread Chris Lamb
> > I believe [--set_all_file_dates] is entirely unnecessary > > if SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH sets the default, there must be some option to set > non-default values, especially the value which is default without > SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH. Consider the state space: If someone does not set SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH,

Upcoming stable point release (8.6)

2016-09-02 Thread Adam D. Barratt
Hi, The next point release for "jessie" (8.6) is scheduled for Saturday, September 17th. Processing of new uploads into jessie-proposed-updates will be frozen during the preceding weekend. Regards, Adam

Re: Do the file timestamps in ISOs matter ?

2016-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > new program option: --set_all_file_dates [...] Chris Lamb wrote: > I believe this option is entirely unnecessary. No need to > complicate things. It is architecturally needed, because if SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH sets the default, there must be some option to set non-default values, es