Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Mark Sheppard wrote: I believe Debian's lists use SmartList in which case all that needs doing is to make sure foreign_submit is unset in rc.custom for the list We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Nicholas David Borko
foreign_submit is unset in rc.custom for the list We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email addresses then they are subscribed with, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Wichert

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's a different Internet now than in the past. Perhaps it's a perfectly reasonable thing to expect people to subscribe every address they wish to post from. That's completely braindead. Wichert. --

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Mike Isely
* to be done. Half of the spam I receive is now coming from this list. I've about had it. The fact is that this list is going to die if something isn't done. -Mike On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Mark Sheppard wrote: I

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
Previously Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's a different Internet now than in the past. Perhaps it's a perfectly reasonable thing to expect people to subscribe every address they wish to post from. That's completely braindead. How many accounts does a given person have? Smart list

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread ukasz Grochal
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email addresses then they are subscribed with, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. So, for the sake of the list being more

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Siward de Groot
hi, everybody, Part of spam could be identified by creating a dummy mailinglist, debian-a, where nobody should ever send mail to. If an email was received on this list, it would be sure to be spam, so distribution of identical emails by same sender on other lists could be inhibited

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Jö Fahlke
adresses from the local student domain. Of course it also isn't possible to use another smtp-server... Fortunately I can ssh out to another box and do smtp from there, but thats not possible for everyone. That said, it realy doesn't apply to this list, as the only one who has to send things here

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Mike Isely
to send mail appearing to come from a subscribed address (even if your end-result ISP address, for example, is different). As a matter of fact, this is what I am doing right now. I was presuming that since spammers can also adjust the from address that the list server might have a more secure

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread ukasz Grochal
Jaakko Niemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are reading this, I screwed up. And if I see this, it's time to unsubscribe. I wondered if I should send this but hey - one spam more, one less, who cares? -- (-) ukasz Grochal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jaakko Niemi wrote: If you are reading this, I screwed up. What are you trying to do? Being able to post to this list has some merits. Wichert. -- _ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This space intentionally left occupied

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread ukasz\ Grochal
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Jaakko Niemi wrote: If you are reading this, I screwed up. What are you trying to do? Being able to post to this list has some merits. Are you really sure that there are any reasons to permit posting from accounts that are _not_

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Sheppard
On 2001-12-07 (Friday) at 14:27:45 +0100, ?ukasz Grochal wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Previously Jaakko Niemi wrote: If you are reading this, I screwed up. What are you trying to do? Being able to post to this list has some merits. Are you really sure

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Mark Sheppard wrote: I believe Debian's lists use SmartList in which case all that needs doing is to make sure foreign_submit is unset in rc.custom for the list We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Nicholas David Borko
foreign_submit is unset in rc.custom for the list We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email addresses then they are subscribed with, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Wichert

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Mark Sheppard wrote: I believe Debian's lists use SmartList in which case all that needs doing is to make sure foreign_submit is unset in rc.custom for the list We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's a different Internet now than in the past. Perhaps it's a perfectly reasonable thing to expect people to subscribe every address they wish to post from. That's completely braindead. Wichert. --

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Mike Isely
* to be done. Half of the spam I receive is now coming from this list. I've about had it. The fact is that this list is going to die if something isn't done. -Mike On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Mark Sheppard wrote: I

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christofer C. Bell wrote: It's a different Internet now than in the past. Perhaps it's a perfectly reasonable thing to expect people to subscribe every address they wish to post from. That's completely braindead. *shrugs* So is

Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Michiel van Baak
Yo people, This whole discussion is off-topic. I subscribed to follow the debian-changes, not to follow these endless discussions. Plz stay on topic mafkees Michiel van Baak pgpq70TEvxYc8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Andreas Dhum
Hi, On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 06:15:14PM +0100, Michiel van Baak wrote: This whole discussion is off-topic. So is spam. I subscribed to follow the debian-changes, not to follow these endless discussions. I subscribed to follow the debian-changes, not to receive more spam than useful

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Lennart Sorensen wrote: How many accounts does a given person have? It's very common to use a list-specific email address by encoding the listname into the email address. Some people mail from different locations depending on if they are at home, work, travelling, etc. Wichert

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread ukasz Grochal
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've had that detabase too often already, and it won't be done. There are too many people posting from different email addresses then they are subscribed with, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. So, for the sake of the list being more

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
address (even if your end-result ISP address, for example, is different). As a matter of fact, this is what I am doing right now. That said, debian-changes is not really a discussion list, so why would wanting to post to it be a large issue for anyone but people providing changes -- hopefully people

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:16:28AM -0800, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: That said, debian-changes is not really a discussion list, so why would wanting to post to it be a large issue for anyone but people providing changes -- hopefully people smart enough to change their mailer's from: field? All

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Siward de Groot
hi, everybody, Part of spam could be identified by creating a dummy mailinglist, debian-a, where nobody should ever send mail to. If an email was received on this list, it would be sure to be spam, so distribution of identical emails by same sender on other lists could be inhibited

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Jö Fahlke
adresses from the local student domain. Of course it also isn't possible to use another smtp-server... Fortunately I can ssh out to another box and do smtp from there, but thats not possible for everyone. That said, it realy doesn't apply to this list, as the only one who has to send things here

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Mike Isely
to send mail appearing to come from a subscribed address (even if your end-result ISP address, for example, is different). As a matter of fact, this is what I am doing right now. I was presuming that since spammers can also adjust the from address that the list server might have a more secure

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: All this address checking or mangling isn't necessary, even. The only person/thing that should post to this list is the Debian archive maintenance software, when it installs a new package to stable. I disagree, it's been used frequently to comment on uploads which

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 10:47:10PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: All this address checking or mangling isn't necessary, even. The only person/thing that should post to this list is the Debian archive maintenance software, when it installs a new package to stable. I disagree, it's been

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: You must be reading some other mailing list than I am, because I haven't seen a comment on an upload on debian-changes for several years. Look at debian-devel-changes archives, same thing applies there Wichert

Testing list changes.

2001-12-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
If you are reading this, I screwed up. -j -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Testing list changes.

2001-12-06 Thread ukasz Grochal
Jaakko Niemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are reading this, I screwed up. And if I see this, it's time to unsubscribe. I wondered if I should send this but hey - one spam more, one less, who cares? -- (-) ukasz Grochal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Testing list changes.

2001-12-06 Thread Jaakko Niemi
If you are reading this, I screwed up. -j

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2001-01-30 Thread Sigitas Jurkevicius
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2001-01-29 Thread Sigitas Jurkevicius
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request for archives of this list for September 2000

2000-09-15 Thread Josip Rodin
] and web archives for these september of these lists are incomplete. [1] master:~debian/.forward-list-archive needs lists/procmailrc, but there's no such file. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

request for archives of this list for September 2000

2000-09-14 Thread Josip Rodin
] and web archives for these september of these lists are incomplete. [1] master:~debian/.forward-list-archive needs lists/procmailrc, but there's no such file. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

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