Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:00:50AM -0800, Jurij Smakov wrote: When ide-generic is included (it is loaded after all the native ide modules), the kernel boots fine. The reason is that in the Debian 2.6.8 sources the ide-generic initialization procedure contains the call to ide_scan_pcibus(),

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:12:42AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:00:50AM -0800, Jurij Smakov wrote: When ide-generic is included (it is loaded after all the native ide modules), the kernel boots fine. The reason is that in the Debian 2.6.8 sources the ide-generic

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:10:12AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I've done a little poking of my own at sysfs based on the comments in the yaird code. I can confirm that it is possible for a PCI IDE driver to be listed as associated with a PCI device without actually being the driver used to

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:40:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:10:12AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I've done a little poking of my own at sysfs based on the comments in the yaird code. I can confirm that it is possible for a PCI IDE driver to be listed as

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:49:18AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Mmm. When this was happening, could you use and mount partition on this device ? And when doing so, do you know which of ide-generic or cmd64x would be used to read the drive ? Are you suggesting that loading cmd64x

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:10:27AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:49:18AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Mmm. When this was happening, could you use and mount partition on this device ? And when doing so, do you know which of ide-generic or cmd64x would be

Re: #342455

2006-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: So, it seems like we have the following opinions: In the long term, have fine grained control that leaves disks as root:disk 0660, and other devices with other appropriate groups. -- in favour: everyone? Immediately, until the

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Looks like the two days rest is getting irrelevant...) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:00:50 -0800 (PST) Jurij Smakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: What version of the kernel was this analysis done with? The

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:28:07PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: That patch has been dropped starting with the release of 2.6.15-1 Debian kernel packages, according to changelog. Yes. It is also noted as being dropped in 2.6.14-6. The first of my collected[1] Bugreports[2] indicated

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:07:34 +0100 Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 March 2006 15:29, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If modular-ide is the sole source of trouble here, then what worked in 2.6.14-4 and earlier? =2.6.12 used initrd-tools and that must still contain the correct

Bug#345067: My understanding of the IDE mess, and why it does not make sense to apply the proposed patch

2006-03-10 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If modular-ide is the sole source of trouble here, then what worked in 2.6.14-4 and earlier? The bugreports seem to indicate that things broke in 2.6.14-5 that worked in 2.6.14-4. And it seems nothing related else than linux-2.6 changed then - not