Bug#727708: Vote sysvinit 4 jessie

2014-02-04 Thread Peter
Users votes so far are;- (out of a pop. of~ 151,000) systemd9473 upstart64 openrc5 http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=systemd http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=upstart http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=openrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#727708:

2014-02-04 Thread Nick Rhodes
Users votes so far are;- (out of a pop. of~ 151,000) systemd9473 upstart64 openrc5 http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=systemd http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=upstart http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=openrc So what are the votes for sysvinit,

Bug#727708:

2014-02-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Nick Rhodes writes (Bug#727708: ): So what are the votes for sysvinit, approx 130,000 ? Please, STOP. These kind of messages aren't going to change anyone's mind at this stage. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#727708: Processed: block 726763 with 727708

2014-02-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 12:57:39PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Colin Watson The de facto interface for making an init system the default is to install it as /sbin/init. While I'm coming at this from a starting point different from Cameron's above - I haven't yet decided whether I

Bug#727708: Processed: block 726763 with 727708

2014-02-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Colin Watson On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 12:57:39PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Colin Watson The de facto interface for making an init system the default is to install it as /sbin/init. While I'm coming at this from a starting point different from Cameron's above - I haven't

Bug#727708: Processed: block 726763 with 727708

2014-02-04 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 16:53 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 12:57:39PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: You mean, like installing the systemd-sysv package? Indeed; but people earlier in this thread have said that this isn't the preferred approach, so I was arguing that this

Bug#727708: multiple init systems - formal resolution proposal

2014-02-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 01 Feb 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: Where would this ballot option rank vis-à-vis FD, for those TC members who are opposed to the loose coupling option? I'm planning on ranking everything above FD. However, I would rank this particular option at the same level as L. == dependencies

Bug#727708: Vote sysvinit 4 jessie

2014-02-04 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Michael Gilbert mgilb...@debian.org writes: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote: Michael Gilbert writes: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: So all deferring for another cycle does is leave Debian with annoying cumbersome init scripts and unsolvable race

Bug#727708: Re: Re: Bug#727708: multiple init systems: We have to see it for what it is: Lennart/Linux OS. Yes it is.

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Dolding
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:00 PM, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote: Ah, you're a systemd acolyte. You smugly proclaim that it is USELESS to resist! No wrong.There are just possible ways to resist. Then there are impossible ways. Forking every package that depends on

Bug#727708: multiple init systems: We have to see it for what it is: Lennart/Linux OS. Not.

2014-02-04 Thread Peter Dolding
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:20 PM, ChaosEsque Team chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote: Honestly. I, and many many many others, do NOT WANT SYSTEMD. We do not want to be forced or cajoled into using it. NOR do we want to be PUNISHED for not using it. heheh yea you don't have to use it, but nothing