Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 06:04:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I hereby call for votes on my coupling proposal and the amendments > that have been put. > The options on the ballot are: > L Software may not depend on a specific init system > N No TC resolution on this question at this time

Bug#636783: TC constitutional issues

2014-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Briefly, mostly for my own notes: * 2:1 supermajority for TC overrides should be abolished (seems we are probably agreed on this - speak now if not) * FD threshold needs to be >= always, not >. Requirement to get >> 4/8 voting X > FD was exploitable and bad news. * Possible minimum dis

Bug#636783: TC constitutional issues

2014-02-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
Ian Jackson writes: > * 2:1 supermajority for TC overrides should be abolished (seems >we are probably agreed on this - speak now if not) I'm fine with this. > * FD threshold needs to be >= always, not >. Requirement to get >>> 4/8 voting X > FD was exploitable and bad news. There h

Bug#636783: TC constitutional issues

2014-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Bdale Garbee writes: > Ian Jackson writes: >> * Possible minimum discussion period for TC resolutions. > I'd prefer this not change. The circumstances that led to my recent use > of no-wait CFVs was extremely unusual, and in the past we've used this > ability to quickly come to closure on iss

Re: Next CTTE meeting at date -d 'Thu Feb 27 18:00:00 UTC 2014' in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org

2014-02-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > The next CTTE meeting is at date -d 'Thu Feb 27 18:00:00 UTC 2014' in > #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org #debian-ctte Meeting Meeting started by dondelelcaro at 17:58:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http:/

Scheduling next Debian-CTTE IRC meeting date -d 'Thu Mar 20 17:00:00 UTC 2014'

2014-02-27 Thread Don Armstrong
Our next meeting was originally scheduled for date -d 'Thu Mar 27 17:00:00 UTC 2014', but multiple people have conflicts. Instead, we suggested date -d 'Thu Mar 20 17:00:00 UTC 2014' in the most recent IRC meeting. If this does not work for someone, please reply and suggest an alternate time. [I

Bug#636783: TC constitutional issues

2014-02-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ian Jackson (ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk) [140227 19:27]: > * 2:1 supermajority for TC overrides should be abolished (seems >we are probably agreed on this - speak now if not) I prefer if any decision to override the TC is statistically safe, i.e. not just one vote above 50%. For the in

Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-02-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
Ian Jackson writes: > I hereby call for votes on my coupling proposal and the amendments > that have been put. With all 8 votes cast, this CFV on the init system coupling issue has ended in a tie between options "L" and "N". Given my vote on this issue, it should be no surprise that I use my ca