Package: tech-ctte
Severity: Important
When upgrading an old system installing certain packages, like
network-manager and gdm3 systemd-sysv is installed changing the init
system. These packages depend on libpam-systemd, which depends on
systemd-sysv | systemd-shim. If systemd-shim is not installed
❦ 18 octobre 2014 13:32 +0200, Svante Signell :
> In summary, the CTTE is asked to make a decision on debconf warnings on:
> 1) Changing init system on upgrades (including sid)
> 2) Inform about alternate init systems for new installations
2 is quite far-fetched. Why not a debconf warning to te
Clearly, the initsystem is by far, much more relevant than nano, vi, jre,
mail, x-www-browser, etc... It is a big deal.
Item 2 is important. And not to only make popularity contest more fair...
It should not only inform about alternate init systems, but also, give
people the opportunity to chose b
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 18 octobre 2014 13:32 +0200, Svante Signell :
>
>> In summary, the CTTE is asked to make a decision on debconf warnings on:
>> 1) Changing init system on upgrades (including sid)
>> 2) Inform about alternate init systems for new installa
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 08:20:33PM -0300, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
> Clearly, the initsystem is by far, much more relevant than nano, vi, jre,
> mail, x-www-browser, etc... It is a big deal.
Why? I'm sure the majority of users would notice a change in
x-www-browser or sensible-editor before they'd n
Hi Svante,
Svante Signell writes:
> In summary, the CTTE is asked to make a decision on debconf warnings on:
> 1) Changing init system on upgrades (including sid)
> 2) Inform about alternate init systems for new installations
For issue 1, I think it's clear that you're asking the CTTE to overru
Hello, systemd maintainers.
We (the Technical Committee) have received a request to override a
maintainer decision around whether systems are switched from sysvinit to
systemd on upgrade. However, it's not clear to me that an actual decision
has been made that we would need to override.
There ha
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:27:11 -0700 Cameron Norman
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> > ❦ 18 octobre 2014 13:32 +0200, Svante Signell :
> >
> >> In summary, the CTTE is asked to make a decision on debconf warnings on:
> >> 1) Changing init system on upgrades (incl
[ I would usually add debian-boot@ in Cc so that my peers get into the
loop but let's not add extra noise. ]
Russ Allbery (2014-10-18):
> Svante Signell writes:
>
> > In summary, the CTTE is asked to make a decision on debconf warnings on:
> > 1) Changing init system on upgrades (including sid)
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 20:59:54 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote:
> When one of you has a chance, could you update this bug with the current
> thinking around how to handle upgrades, around the ordering of
> dependencies in libpam-systemd, and some of the other ideas (such as
> attempting to detect systems w
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