Bug#994388: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems

2022-03-16 Thread Josh Triplett
On March 15, 2022 11:38:44 PM PDT, Sean Whitton wrote: >Hello Josh, > >On Tue 15 Mar 2022 at 03:14pm -07, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> It would appear that the situation has deteriorated further. dpkg 1.21.2 >> now issues a warning on all merged-usr systems: >> >> Setting up dpkg (1.21.2) ... >> dpk

Bug#994388: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems

2022-03-16 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 16 Mar 2022 at 12:39am -07, Josh Triplett wrote: > On March 15, 2022 11:38:44 PM PDT, Sean Whitton > wrote: >>Hello Josh, >> >>On Tue 15 Mar 2022 at 03:14pm -07, Josh Triplett wrote: >> >>> It would appear that the situation has deteriorated further. dpkg 1.21.2 >>> now issues a w

Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

2022-03-16 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 9:33 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > > We should define native and non-native > packages in terms of version numbers, and allow both native and non-native > packages to use single-tarball source package formats. I co-maintaintain several Debian-internal tools, and that descr

Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

2022-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version"): > Beyond the content of your request, I have a meta-question. Do you see a > particular urgency with the processing of your request? What is - in > your opinion - a reasonable time for resolving this? O

Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

2022-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Felix Lechner writes: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 9:33 PM Russ Allbery wrote: >> We should define native and non-native packages in terms of version >> numbers, and allow both native and non-native packages to use >> single-tarball source package formats. > I co-maintaintain several Debian-intern

Bug#994388: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems

2022-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Sean Whitton writes: > Thanks for the pointer. It's only in the postinst, it seems. So this > is only going to get emitted once per system and only on upgraded > systems. I think the concern is less about the noise and more about the fact that this will be perceived by users as an official dec

Bug#994388: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems

2022-03-16 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 16 Mar 2022 at 08:55am -07, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> Thanks for the pointer. It's only in the postinst, it seems. So this >> is only going to get emitted once per system and only on upgraded >> systems. > > I think the concern is less about the noise and mo

Re: Bug#994388: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems

2022-03-16 Thread Josh Triplett
Russ Allbery wrote: > I think the concern is less about the noise and more about the fact that > this will be perceived by users as an official declaration from Debian as > a project that their system configuration is unsupported, while > simultaneously this is the default installation mode for new

Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

2022-03-16 Thread Wookey
On 2022-03-16 15:29 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > In practice, the vast majority of packages are maintained in git on > salsa. The maintainers use those git repositories as the PFM. > but almost everyone is already treating git as primary. Is this definitely true? For example: I know I'm not doing

Bug#1007717: Native source package format with non-native version

2022-03-16 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Russ, On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 09:22:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Specifically, I'd like to ask the TC to come up with policy on native > > packages and debian revisions using its power under 6.1.1. > > As a Policy Editor, I support this request. As a TC member I admit disliking this. W