Hi dear CTTE members, hi Adrian,
Considering:
a) that I have (possibly wrongly) interpreted Adrian's #668662#105 [0] as
offensive (and therefor took it too personally);
b) that I have therefor over-reacted in #668662#118 [1], including a call to
appeal to the tech-ctte, probably unneeded;
c)
Hi Russ,
Thanks for your detailed summary, it's very helpful.
Le vendredi, 2 novembre 2012 23.47:11, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> In practice, divergence from the upstream SONAME practice is probably a
> bad idea. This business of having an exposed private API is dangerous and
> constitutes bad API
Le samedi, 4 janvier 2014, 19.10:21 Josh Triplett a écrit :
> Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> > Rejections on mailinglists and else where to split:
> > /lib/systemd/systemd-multi-seat-x
> > /lib/systemd/systemd-timedated
> > /lib/systemd/systemd-localed
> > /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
> > /lib/systemd
Hi Ian,
Le lundi, 20 janvier 2014, 11.34:35 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Don, seriously, if there is something I could go and implement or fix
> in upstart that would convince you, that would be a lot easier and
> more fun than arguing on the internet.
>
> It might also demonstrate how easy it is to w
Sorry for yet-another-mail on that (long-lasting) bug, but I feel it's
important; so feel free to dismiss it if it isn't bringing to the
conversation.
Le jeudi, 6 février 2014, 16.27:15 Anthony Towns a écrit :
> Rankings between remaning actual outcomes is:
>
> 4x UL > DL > UT > DT (steve,
Le jeudi, 6 février 2014, 10.50:05 Colin Watson a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 10:20:02AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > L really reads to me like a way to enforce support for all init
> > systems alike (thereby ensuring that the default init gets the s
Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 01.08:46 Keith Packard a écrit :
> I think a fair number of us seem to feel that the T/L notion is at
> least as important, if not more important, than the D/U/O/V decision
> as it sets a broader and longer-term precedent for the project than
> choosing which init syste
Hi Kurt,
Le jeudi, 6 février 2014, 21.19:36 Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:38:25PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > I'm guessing that under you're asking for the interpretation of
> >
> > this in 6.1.1:
> > | In each case the usual maintainer of the relevant software or
> > | doc
Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 18.47:51 Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > Back then, the gnome maintainers added a dependency on another
> > package, which happened to be providing an /sbin/init. This was
> > allowed by the Debian Policy of the time as well as by the Debian
> > archive. The maintainers of th
Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 11.04:12 Russ Allbery a écrit :
> "Didier 'OdyX' Raboud" writes:
> > Back then, the gnome maintainers added a dependency on another
> > package, which happened to be providing an /sbin/init. This was
> > allowed by the De
Le dimanche, 9 février 2014, 12.33:02 Emilio Pozuelo Monfort a écrit :
> On 07/02/14 16:43, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Back then, the gnome maintainers added a dependency on another
> > package, which happened to be providing an /sbin/init.
>
> That's pl
Hi Steve,
Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 13.07:54 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Here's what I think is the right technical policy, that we should be
> addressing with this resolution.
>
> - Packages in jessie must retain compatibility with sysvinit startup
>interfaces (i.e., init scripts in /etc/
Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 14.27:25 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> (…), what I've seen suggests that systemd integration is currently in
> a state that would cause terrible regressions for many server users.
Le samedi, 8 février 2014, 14.18:39 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> I vote F U D (…)
Quite frank
Le dimanche, 9 février 2014, 13.02:21 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 02:07:56PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Le vendredi, 7 février 2014, 14.27:25 Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > > (…), what I've seen suggests that systemd integration i
Le mardi, 8 avril 2014, 18.30:26 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Technology: The two systems have different file formats. While the
> semantics of the information presented overlap, there are substantial
> differences in the capabilities of the two systems.
The 'trad' menu file or the 'desktop' xdg file
Le mercredi, 9 avril 2014, 12.21:28 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> You have missed my key point about differences of goals between the
> two menu systems. The trad menu explicitly has the goal of providing
> a menu item for every invokable thing; whereas the desktop menu
> maintainers want it to provide
Le mercredi, 9 avril 2014, 15.00:44 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Right. I understand that some people don't think the comprehensive
> menu is useful. However, there are a lot of things in Debian that
> some people think aren't useful. The usual principle is that if
> someone thinks something useful a
Control: reopen -1
Le mardi, 16 décembre 2014 16.13:47, OdyX a écrit :
> Le mardi, 16 décembre 2014, 09.58:02 Harry-Werner a écrit :
> > When the first bar button on the top right corner of a window
> > is clicked the window will not size or open after being reduced to a
> > bar.
>
> tech-ctte i
Hi all,
Many thanks to Bdale for both his words and his work as Chairman over
all these years!
Le lundi, 9 mars 2015, 14.21:08 Bdale Garbee a écrit :
> === BEGIN
>
> The Technical Committee Chairman should be:
>
> A: Don Armstrong
> B: Andreas Barth
> C: Steve Langasek
> D: Kei
Le mardi, 10 mars 2015, 17.47:50 Keith Packard a écrit :
> Sam Hartman writes:
> > A couple of weeks ago I noticed mail to d-d-a talking about sprints
> > at debconf.
> > I'm wondering whether we want to try and spend a day at debconf or
> > debcamp exploring how we want to work together, how we w
Le mardi, 10 mars 2015, 13.48:42 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> Given that we have new members, if anyone has a conflict with that
> time slot, and would prefer that it was moved, I've created a dudle
> poll which can be used to vote:
>
> https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/ctte_march_meeting/
Thanks for
Le mercredi, 11 mars 2015, 23.36:23 Keith Packard a écrit :
> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> > Ideally, given quorum, we could also take advantage of that time
> > together to push pending issues, and (help) clear our backlog.
>
> While I think this could b
Le jeudi, 9 avril 2015, 08.42:03 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> This is a non-binding poll for the default meeting times for future
> CTTE meetings.
I vote:
I > H > J > N > M > O > F > K = A > B = G = L > C > Z > D = E
Cheers,
OdyX
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Hi all,
Tollef, thank you for having pushed this topic, we're heading towards a
solution it seems.
Sorry to have taken so long to answer…
Le mercredi, 15 avril 2015, 20.13:44 Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> >> Quoting Axel Beckert (a...@debian.org):
> >> > In the long run I'd like to see even more
Le dimanche, 17 mai 2015, 19.00:27 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> Proposed for your consideration and checked into git for your editing:
Thank you for this draft, it's a very good start.
I've pushed 5 isolated commits that make the draft text consistent in
numbering, capitalization and names. Here come
Le jeudi, 11 juin 2015, 20.07:24 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> Sorry for the delay; I've tweaked the text and cut out a lot. See what
> you think:
Works for me, thanks!
Cheers, OdyX
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Le lundi, 15 juin 2015, 08.08:27 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I here-by call for a vote on the following text (option A); the other
> option is FD.
> (…)
> Using the power of the technical committee to provide advice (§6.1.5):
>
> 1. The Technical Committee agrees that Christian has the power to
>
Le mercredi, 29 juillet 2015, 10.29:10 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > Unless someone objects
> > I propose that the following text also be included in option b:
> >
> > Using its power under §6.1.5 to offer advice:
> >1. The Technical Committee suggests t
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Hi all,
here's my understanding of the state of our "Fix duplicate section
numbering" discussion: There are two A.1 sections in the current
constitution, the proposed solution is to renumber the first to A.0.
Ian wrote a full GR proposal in
<20996.60469.968
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Hi all,
here's my understanding of the state of our "Introduction of a formal
cloture vote procedure for the TC" discussion.
In June 2014, in answer to a proposal from Ian to introduce a minimum
discussion period in the TC, Steve, referring to a previous TC
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Hi all,
here's my understanding of the state of our "TC chair appointment"
discussion.
In June 2014, in <21420.15439.20061.525...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Ian
described a problem he wanted to see fixed in the constitution:
Le jeudi, 26 juin 2014, 16.29:19 I
Dear fellow TC members,
In the mood of tackling more of our old TC issues, I went ahead and
reviewed all threads in the bugreport. I've then opened new independent
bugs for all relevant issues, and commented the others below. For all
problems for which I haven't opened a bug, I would strongly s
Le lundi, 17 août 2015, 14.57:18 j'ai écrit :
> Ian wrote a full GR proposal in
> <20996.60469.968631.307...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> (
> [636783_supermajority/propose-numberfix] in
> our git repository and I've attached it to this mail) which addresses
> this.
I realize that lifting the GR hammer
Le mardi, 16 juin 2015, 10.54:02 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> With this, the outcome is no longer in doubt, and option A has won. I
> will announce and record the decision later today.
This was announced to debian-devel-announce in
<20150619142800.ga8...@qor.donarmstring.com>, and was published on t
Le jeudi, 30 août 2012, 13.29:57 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: Bug#686235: Committee list of
decisions on webpage is incomplete"):
> > The bug title makes me believe I didn't convey the scope of my
> > comment well enough. I was referring specifically to the
> > _nontechn
Hi Charles, and thanks for your feedback,
Le lundi, 17 août 2015, 21.25:59 Charles Plessy a écrit :
> I think that option D has two fundamental flaws and I would like to
> recommend the TC against voting for it.
>
> * First, if it is voted, nothing will happen.
>
> If the TC adopts option D, and
Dear TC,
as far as I know, Bdale, Steve, Adam and myself are now present at
DebConf, but that's only going to last until tonight.
Anyway, I'm proposing to have a meeting sometime today, to go over our
list of issues, discuss how we want to proceed with the warmest of them,
etc. What about meet
Le mardi, 18 août 2015, 09.35:36 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> as far as I know, Bdale, Steve, Adam and myself are now present at
--
Sorry for that. My memory starts failing me apparently… :/
Cheers,
OdyX
Le mardi, 18 août 2015, 14.01:27 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > >>>>> "Don" == Don Armstrong writes:
> > Don> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > >> What about
Dear all,
during today's face-to-face meeting at DebConf (with Steve, Andreas,
Bdale and myself), we reviewed all currently open issues [0] and
discussed informally how we felt about what the next steps should be for
each of them, and spread action items between us. Expect moves on
various bug
Hi all,
Short reminder: we have our next IRC CTTE Meeting at
date -d 'Wed Aug 26 19:00:00 UTC 2015'
… which is in 5h15.
I've pushed an updated agenda to the repository, here it comes too:
1. Who is here
2. Next Meeting
3. #741573 On menu systems
4. #771070 Coordinate plan and requireme
Hi all,
Thank you all for the efficient meeting yesterday, here are it's
minutes:
#debian-ctte Meeting
Meeting started by OdyX at 18:59:26 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2015/debian-ctte.2015-08-26-18.59.log.ht
Le jeudi, 27 août 2015, 18.11:56 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> The trad Debian menu, and the XDG menu files as found in existing
> desktop applications, do not agree on either
> (i) the scope of the menu
Right. But the 'trad Debian menu' (as outlined in Policy §9.6) has never
reached the point where "a
Le vendredi, 28 août 2015, 13.51:52 Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> > Keith's proposal doesn't imply that the trad menu would "be
> > destroyed" (your words),
>
> It does. There is nothing in Keith's proposal which p
(Dropping the bug, this doesn't relate to it)
Le vendredi, 28 août 2015, 14.38:50 Nikolaus Rath a écrit :
> What I mean is that for more than one year, any vote on this bug was
> prevented by the TC waiting for any one of its members to catch up on
> the discussion, articulate his concerns, write
Le dimanche, 30 août 2015, 13.01:36 Nikolaus Rath a écrit :
> On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > Nikolaus> Surely there is no need to single out the traditional
> > Nikolaus> menu as something that must not be used. It's
> > Nikolaus> sufficient if policy mandates the use of .desk
Le dimanche, 30 août 2015, 22.01:27 Keith Packard a écrit :
> Thinking about this tonight, I've rewritten option D as AB + patch.
>
> As you can see, this makes packages shipping menu and .desktop files
> for the same application buggy, makes all packages using the Debian
> Menu System buggy, and
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Hi all,
following up after our latest tech-ctte IRC meeting [0], I propose to
hereby coordinate our decision-making process towards proposing two
candidate TC members to the DPL for a term starting in January next
year. I've r
Le mardi, 1 septembre 2015, 16.54:52 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I'd like to call for votes on the following resolution:
On the Debian Menu Systems resolution, I vote
D > B > A > Z > C
I written my rationale done in more verbose terms there:
https://lists.debian.org/2534944.fjzomkj...@odyx.
Le lundi, 31 août 2015, 09.55:24 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I'd like to have a discussion about what we want from TC members
> before we make a call for nominations.
Absolutely; I only opened a bug to put the question on our table, but
timing is clearly one aspect of the discussion surrounding the p
Hi all,
could we re-focus this discussion on what qualities the current
Technical Committee Members want to find in new TC members, please?
I'm not saying that the "process about handling new requests to the TC"
discussion is worthless to have, but it just feels like a hijack of that
bug log.
The next CTTE meeting is tonight in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
(OFTC). The current agenda is below:
#startmeeting
#topic Who is here?
#topic Next Meeting?
* Current winners
Option I "Wednesday 19:00 UTC (November 25th)"
Option L "Thursday 17:00 UTC (November 26th)"
Option M "T
Le mercredi, 13 janvier 2016, 15.32:15 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> Please update meeting_poll/run_vote.sh in git with your preference for
> the January and February meeting time. I will announce the winners on
> Wednesday the 20th.
As none of these exist in 2016…
Tuesday February 29th
Le jeudi, 14 avril 2016, 11.26:31 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> ===BEGIN
>
> The Technical Committee recommends that Philip Hands (philh) be
> appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical Committee.
>
> A: Recommend to Appoint Philip Hands (philh)
> B: Further Discussion
>
> ===END
I vot
Le dimanche, 17 avril 2016, 20.26:57 Don Armstrong a écrit :
> ===BEGIN===
>
> The chair of the CTTE will be:
>
> A: Don Armstrong
> B: Andreas Barth
> C: Phil Hands
> D: Sam Hartman
> E: Tollef Fog Heen
> F: Keith Packard
> G: Didier Raboud
> ===END===
I vote
G>D>A>B=C=E=F
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O
Dear all,
The next Debian CTTE Meeting will happen at
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The current agenda is below; please make any changes necessary in git.
#startmeeting
#topic Check-in
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Hi all,
following up after our recent IRC meeting [0], let's hereby formalize
our seat-filling process.
First, here's the fresh §6.2.7 of our constitution:
> 6.2.7 Term limit:
> On January 1st of each year the term of any Committee member w
Dear all,
Small reminder; the next Debian CTTE Meeting will happen in 1,5 day;
date -d 'Tue May 31 17:00:00 UTC 2016'
in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
The current agenda is up-to-date in our git; please make any necessary
changes.
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Le dimanche, 3 juillet 2016, 04.33:58 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> Several members of the TC met after breakfast to discuss planning
> tomorrow's BOF; discussions diverged into general TC issues.
Thank you for the minutes; they have been very helpful refreshing my
mind for the presentation.
> Tomorro
Dear TC members, dear DPL,
as I have reported to you already, I have had multiple discussions
during the course of DebConf so far about the DPL's Debian Roadmap idea
with him; and it would make sense for us to get a closer in-person
explanation from the DPL to us as he has a vision for a role f
Dear TC members,
I hereby call for votes on the following ballot to fill the vacancy in
the TC. The voting period starts now and lasts for up to one week, or
until the outcome is no longer in doubt.
===BEGIN
The Technical Committee recommends that Margarita Manterola be
appointed by the Debi
Le mardi, 5 juillet 2016, 09.59:16 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> ===BEGIN
>
> The Technical Committee recommends that Margarita Manterola
> be appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical
> Committee.
>
> MM: Recommend to appoint Margarita Mant
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Dear TC members, dear DPL,
Le mardi, 5 juillet 2016, 09.59:16 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> ===BEGIN
>
> The Technical Committee recommends that Margarita Manterola
> be appointed by the Debian Project Leader to the Technical
> Committ
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Dear TC members,
With the appointment of Marga to the TC and according to our current
procedures¹, I am hereby announcing my immediate vacation of the chair
position, triggering a new election. For clarity of the process, I am
interested to continue serving
Le mardi, 5 juillet 2016, 15.35:54 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> ===BEGIN===
>
> The chair of the Debian Technical Committee will be:
>
> A: Andreas Barth
> B: Don Armstrong
> C: Keith Packard
> D: Didier Raboud
> E: Tollef Fog Heen
> F: Sam
Le mercredi, 6 juillet 2016, 07.50:26 Sam Hartman a écrit :
> However, after developing a proposal for filling our vacant seat, we
> also turned to a discussion of time line for the future.
> We'll have two seats to fill in January.
>
> Didier was looking for someone to write up that part of the
>
Le mercredi, 6 juillet 2016, 19.05:04 Philipp Kern a écrit :
> Given that you deliberate in private, I hope that this time you will
> go and present your pick without a vote. Your mail does not mention
> this, but it does burn people to be either ranked (and still be
> picked) or be downvoted. This
Dear TC,
I've updated our meeting_poll/run_vote.sh with proposals for July and August
meetings.
Please update your preferences and I'll announce the dates before next Monday.
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Dear TC,
the July IRC meeting will happen on July 28th, 18h UTC; the August meeting is
pending more votes, and I've added the September poll on the git (with your
votes for July as baseline); please make sure your preferences are set.
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was pointed to it.
The current agenda is below; please make any chang
Le dimanche, 17 juillet 2016, 11.32:40 h CEST Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> The next Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
>
> date -d 'Thu July 28 18:00:00 UTC 2016'
> in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
It now happened, the mi
The next Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
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please make any necessary changes.
The meeting poll has also been updated
Dear TC,
I have now found enough brain-time to re-read this bug-log. It's a very
enlightening and interesting read, I must say.
Now onto moving forward; thanks go to Marga for, as Sam put it, "getting the
level of specificity that we need now". I agree that we have enough data to
decide at whi
Le dimanche, 21 août 2016, 09.41:40 h CEST Margarita Manterola a écrit :
> I'm a bit saddened by the lack of traction on this topic.
> We are holding other people's work back by our lack of involvement.
>
> Therefore, I now call for a vote with the following options:
>
> 1) The TC volunteers to b
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Le vendredi, 26 août 2016, 12.55:56 h CEST Ian Jackson a écrit :
> There has recently been a thread on debian-devel ("Is missing
> SysV-init support a bug?) about the decision by a package maintainer
> to drop sysvinit support from their package. The maintainer has said
> they are reconsidering, w
Dear TC,
Small reminder; the next Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
date -d 'Thu Aug 30 18:00:00 UTC 2016'
in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
The current agenda is up-to-date in our git; please make any necessary
changes.
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OdyX
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The meeting poll has also been upda
The next Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
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#startmeeting
#topic Next Meetings?
#topic Revi
Le dimanche, 2 octobre 2016, 14.29:49 h CEST Pirate Praveen a écrit :
> package: tech-ctte
>
> Following up on #830978. I would like this to be reopened and request
> CTTE make a formal vote.
The discussion that lead to closing #830978 happened on IRC [0] , see the full
log from line 172 [1] , a
Le mardi, 4 octobre 2016, 07.12:24 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I'd be willing to vote on the ballot you propose.
> I disagree with your rationale for why this bug is not for the TC to
> decide.
Good. Can you outline shortly why ?
> But I agree that this bug is not for the TC to decide at this
Le jeudi, 6 octobre 2016, 14.38:21 h CEST Adrian Bunk a écrit :
> I am not sure whether this has been filed as a bug in any affected
> package, but src:sqlite3 is not affected.
>
> The problem is the amalgamation in other packages, for example:
> https://sources.debian.net/src/firefox/49.0-4/db/s
Hi Phil, dear TC,
Le jeudi, 29 septembre 2016, 20.56:17 h CEST Philip Hands a écrit :
> You appear to have #action'ed yourself regarding this (judging from the
> agenda to the meeting just past, that you could not attend) so perhaps
> we can move things along by discussing it on the list (rather t
Dear secretary,
(CC'ing FTP Master and TC for information)
The TC has recently been running in circles with different considerations
about its possibility to override delegate's decisions. I'm therefore hereby
requesting an interpretation of the constitution on the following questions:
* Genera
Hi there,
I've been mostly VAC, and only now found enough time to properly read
through this bug log. In the interest of transparency and to help the TC
reach a consensus (also through understanding what the other members'
understanding, ideas and positions are), here comes my current
understa
Reminder: this is in one day @17:00 UTC.
I've updated the agenda with the current TC topics.
Le mardi, 1 novembre 2016, 12.36:54 h CET Margarita Manterola a écrit :
> The November Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
>
> date -d 'Tue Nov 22 17:00:00 UTC 2016'
> in #d
Le mardi, 1 novembre 2016, 12.36:54 h CET Margarita Manterola a écrit :
> The November Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
>
> date -d 'Tue Nov 22 17:00:00 UTC 2016'
> in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
It has now happened, and the meeting log and notes captured by th
The TC had an IRC meeting yesterday [0], and I (was) volunteered to wrap up
the different outcome possibilities, which would help forming our opinions.
Not all these options are exclusive, or would need an actual TC decision.
Here we go:
A) 'global' stays maintained as it currently is.
This wou
Le mercredi, 30 novembre 2016, 14.11:43 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit :
> I'd really like to see the TC offer at least the following advice:
>
> 1) We believe that strong evidence is required to hold back integrating
> new versions of software like global. The burden of proof is on those
> who propos
Le vendredi, 2 décembre 2016, 16.00:36 h CET Ian Jackson a écrit :
> On debian-project I posted a suggestion in respose to Zach in the
> thread about maintaintainership. See below.
I've answered to parts of the debian-project thread.
> Do the TC think a resolution such as that below would pass ?
With my Debian Printing Team member hat:
Le mardi, 6 décembre 2016, 10.18:23 h CET Philip Hands a écrit :
> What is a print server? (CUPS) web server? (apache2)
The "print server" entry in tasksel should be rethought, as it nowadays only
depends on CUPS, and recommends various helper drivers &
Just commenting to some specific points as, despite an explicit request, you
have failed (and spectacularly so) to provide brief answers. That's not
helping a quick and clear path towards resolution.
Le jeudi, 8 décembre 2016, 23.32:44 h CET Ron a écrit :
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:13:05PM +01
Le jeudi, 8 décembre 2016, 18.14:12 h CET Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> Using open like in the code snippet above is pretty much inexcusable in
> this day and age.
Fair enough, thanks for the explanation.
Ron: could you point us to your report of this problem to the upstream
bugtracker or list? Wh
Le vendredi, 9 décembre 2016, 04.55:20 h CET Ron a écrit :
> > If you haven't yet, I urge you to use our standard interface to report
> > such
> > bugs; please make sure issues like this one are public on our bugtracker,
> > with correct found/notfound version markers.
>
> Do you really want entri
The December Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
date -d 'Thu Dec 22 18:00:00 UTC 2016'
in #debian-ctte on irc.debian.org
The meetings.ics file [0] and the agenda were updated accordingly in git;
please make any necessary changes.
The meeting poll has also been upda
With the precious help of Phil and Sam, here comes a draft ballot. It is
attached to this mail, and has been committed to the TC's git repository [0].
It contains the following ballot options:
> - Option A - Reaffirm Ron Lee as 'global' maintainer (§6.1.2)
> - Option B - Declare Wookey as 'global
Le vendredi, 9 décembre 2016, 15.03:14 h CET Colin Watson a écrit :
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 08:58:10AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > However, the time at which Debian has last synced with upstream does
> > matter.
> > Six years is a long time.
> > Moreover, I believe that the standard you've used
Reminder: this is in two days @18:00 UTC.
I've updated the agenda with the current TC topics.
Le vendredi, 9 décembre 2016, 13.25:08 h CET Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> The December Debian Technical Committee Meeting will happen at
>
> date -d '
Le mardi, 20 décembre 2016, 09.34:07 h CET Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> Reminder: this is in two days @18:00 UTC.
The meeting is tonight, but I have a schedule clash with a family event,
unfortunately. I'll try to follow on my mobile, but can't promise full
availabi
Dear TC,
We have this in our procedures:
> Re-appointment of chair after membership change
>
> When new members are appointed to the CTTE or within three months of a
> member resigning from the CTTE, the current chairperson should
> announce their intention to vacate the position within two weeks
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