> * Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 18:05]:
> > What's so hard about using apt to search for packages with the
> > dependency, emailing those package maintainers?
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 03:28:04PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Both dpkg and textutils are essential, and there is no
* Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 18:05]:
> What's so hard about using apt to search for packages with the
> dependency, emailing those package maintainers?
Both dpkg and textutils are essential, and there is no md5sum package.
Therefore, no package will explicitly declare a dependency
Raul Miller writes ("Re: Bug#164889: md5sum There are essentially two approaches to this class of problem.
I think you're approaching this the wrong way. To look at it only as
a compatibility problem is to avoid the question of which behaviour is
more useful.
The behaviour that GNU
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:49:29PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Raul> y=`md5sum < blah*.deb | awk '{print $1}'`
>>
>> Fails for md5sum /some/file >> hash-file-to-be-parsed-later
Raul> I'm not following you. If you're not using md5
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:49:29PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Raul>y=`md5sum < blah*.deb | awk '{print $1}'`
>
> Fails for md5sum /some/file >> hash-file-to-be-parsed-later
I'm not following you. If you're not using md5sum on stdin,
and you don't pipe through awk at all, wha
> * Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 13:54]:
> > Until all those bugs have been closed -- and until every package with
> > a md5sum dependency has had a chance to be tested -- we should forbid
> > deployment of the gnu version.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:38:05PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:31:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
>> debootstrap broke. Things of the form:
>> x=`cat foo.changes | grep blah.*deb | cut -d\ -f2`
>> y=`md5sum < blah*.deb`
>> if [ "$x" != "$y" ]; then
Raul> Hmm...
Rau
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:52:08PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> 2. We have concluded that
>> * md5sum is significantly more useful if there is a way to
>> produce the `bare' output format (ie, without trailing ` -').
Raul> Hmm.. s
* Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-11 13:54]:
> Until all those bugs have been closed -- and until every package with
> a md5sum dependency has had a chance to be tested -- we should forbid
> deployment of the gnu version.
No one will bother to check all these packages. Instead, allow the
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:31:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> debootstrap broke. Things of the form:
> x=`cat foo.changes | grep blah.*deb | cut -d\ -f2`
> y=`md5sum < blah*.deb`
> if [ "$x" != "$y" ]; then
Hmm...
There are essentially two approaches to this class of problem
Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> I don't see why GNU textutils upstream hasn't been contacted for their
> opinion. Seeing if they're willing to change textutil's behaviour from
> something that seems to have no particular benefits, would seem like
> the easiest way to avoid gratuitious incompatabilities
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 08:43:53PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:52:08PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > 2. We have concluded that
> > * md5sum is significantly more useful if there is a way to
> >produce the `bare' output format (ie, without trailing ` -').
> H
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:52:08PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> 2. We have concluded that
> * md5sum is significantly more useful if there is a way to
>produce the `bare' output format (ie, without trailing ` -').
Hmm.. sorry, I let this one slip by me.
What breaks? [An understandin
> Please read my summary of the situation. Debian has been shipping its
> own md5sum since at least in August 1994. It's the GNU people who've
> made a change to the behaviour.
Yes, and I think that the time to lobby GNU to conform to the Debian
md5sum behavior was long before GNU's md5sum estab
Clint Adams writes ("Re: Bug#164889: md5sum Rather than Debian shipping its own md5sum, why not just rely on the GNU
> textutils md5sum(1) in coreutils or one of the not-yet-packaged md5(1)
> utilities from *BSD, depending on whether or not one wants the '-' in
> output?
> * Compatibility with the historical behaviour of md5sum is more
>important than compatibility with the GNU textutils version.
Rather than Debian shipping its own md5sum, why not just rely on the GNU
textutils md5sum(1) in coreutils or one of the not-yet-packaged md5(1)
utilities fro
Ian Jackson writes ("Bug#164889: md5sum I would like to refer bugs #164591 and #164889 (these are merged, and
> I'm the submitter of the latter) to the committee. Below you'll find
> my summary of the issue. (In the summary, `you' refers to the package
> mainta
I would like to refer bugs #164591 and #164889 (these are merged, and
I'm the submitter of the latter) to the committee. Below you'll find
my summary of the issue. (In the summary, `you' refers to the package
maintainer.)
I sent Adam (via the BTS) this summary on the 25th of October, and
asked A
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