Side note from bystander: in this, fascinating thread I mention one, small thing: systemd is disputed here only as primary init system.
But systemd is on fast track to evolving into something bigger and larger than process supervisor - something like universal platform for LinuxOS, like - I don't know how properly describe it with one word - maybe like Android? It is not my personal impression, it was articulated - for example - by Lennart Poetering, as cited in [1]: ... Note that systemd is not an init system (since quite a while), it's a basic set of userspace tools to build an OS from. And hell yes, sane IPC is something we believe should be at the core of every OS, and hence it needs to be at the core of what systemd does. ... Also, at this moment, Debian still claims that "we are trying to produce, amongst other things, a free Unix"[2], but some of devs involved into systemd or kdbus development and many supporters seconded opinion that "unix philosophy is dead" as - for example - in following thread and mentioned LWN comments[3]. >From my, humble POV, in this thread TC should also dispute about general direction for Debian project - because systemd brings more changes to whole system than - simply - "removing /etc/init.d and /etc/inittab in favour of new init system alternatives". 1 - https://plus.google.com/117255203942825212306/posts/ZpW1Pa2TWin 2 - http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/footnotes.html 3 - https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/2nnvNVmAPRV Just my two cents, -- Piotr 'aniou' Meyer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140103083146.ga11...@czajka.smutek.pl